What kind of nonsense do they teach for natural and direct game coaching locally. (detailed outline)

Not sure how much it cost. Maybe $1500 or something or nearly 2 grand for a local creepy tall no empathy like dating coach. My pricing is different now that I work for Wayne Dating Lifestyle. If you want to learn more about why Asian dating coaches has social skills issues, please click here. But I might as well tell you what sorts of nonsense you will be paying for before you fork over your hard earned cash. I’ll say the idealistic thinking behind it or the intention that sounds good. Then i’ll tell you the reality. Or the proof based thinking. Since I also Skype coach internationally and sell my products online. I have a lot of experience field testing my game around the world.

 

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Do you really know if they are even getting laid from daygame? Despite what they claim. Maybe it is from tinder and night game. Unless they show proof from meet, to date, to sex from daygame.

 


Inner game. What they teach locally was have blindspots for inner game. Be deluded and keep repeating affirmations that counters negative beliefs.

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On paper this sounds great. But besides inner game, I have advanced mindsets. You don’t talk to your boss the same way you talk to your girlfriend. Or to your parents or to your grandma. So having different mindsets to adapt to teach is crucial. My mindsets are so strong, I often same day lay taller, younger prettier girls than most Asian daygamers. Mindsets are stronger than affirmations. Also, some of my mindsets are so controversial. I would often tell my clients to put on headphones or make sure no one else can hear it. But it works great. Deepak and I have the exact same mindsets. Its so powerful, that in all my research into inner game. Nothing tops Deepaks mindset yet. Its not even public knowledge, but he has the best inner game ever.


For openers. They will say open naturally as if you were walking up to a friend. You smash the inside of her arm hard and you give her a natural compliment. Be natural, be in the moment and say what is on your mind. Calibrate after the fact as they say.

The problem with this mindset was not everyone is as handsome as this coach. Asian students in general tends to have bowl cuts hairstyles or no pomade in their hair. Its towel dried hair, puffy afros. It looks like they are fobby or not white washed. Meaning not in the same tribe as her. By giving a compliment. They are giving a compliment much like a homeless person giving a compliment. Its very low value so they get auto rejected. They haven’t looks maxed because they believe looks don’t matter. So Asian guys will be auto rejected over and over and over again. They can’t demonstrate their personality. I would teach situational openers too. Direct only when she smiles. Situational or neutral when she half smiles. Indirect when she is frowning or upset. Adapt to her state of mind. Lets say if she is half smiling or frowning. But you gave her a compliment. She is really upset. You just chalk it up to her being a no girl. You could of got her if you adapted.

Then transition into my game. Like Bruce Lee said, be like water. Besides, this coach was kicked out of every mall and various universities. Is this really good advice? Most of the students can’t even stop a girl. Just frighten her. Spam approaching.


The three vibes. Basically one is called commanding vibe. It sounds like a boss yelling at an employee but in a happy douche kind of way. The other one is challenging. Which means when you say are you from Vancouver? You say it from a position of authority. Not in a passive way. Its almost being dominant forcing her to answer. Also the fun vibe or self amusement vibe. That is self explanatory.

The reality. It sounds good to switch gears to make her more attracted. But you need to be a tall handsome Asian guy with muscles. So if your looks are about 8.5/10. You are vibbing a 8.5/10 LMS. You try to be normal but you switch vibes. But it only gets girls below your looks level. I go for 8/10 or 10/10. But you would see this coach going for 5/10 censoring their faces to look like 7.5/10. Or number closing videos. It sounds creepy and uncalibrated. It simple doesn’t work like most direct game. Its all number close videos. In reality, I don’t switch gears this often because like spicing up a soup. You over do it, it just is spoiled. I have normal conversations. I emotionally spice only if she gets bored or isn’t interested to build attraction. But not every second.

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Take the typical uncalibrated Asian guy. Now you have this gamey 3 vibes. Not only do they look like RSD victims. They are gamey and asking a million questions like an interview. I use statements and strong conversational abilities. I can out last a 3 minute conversation. Instadate and same day lay. My clients who learned this three vibes tends to give too many compliments and validation. Then they ask a million questions. Be too gamey and can barely put one foot in front of the other. Swallowing their own tongue. I have to do the repair work.


Tonality. Basically his concept is there are three tonalities. One is uptalk, neutral talk and downtalk or breaking rapport. Uptalk is bad because most Asians has this upward pitch at the end of the sentence. It happens when people has lower self esteem and feels they have lower value. Neutral talk is okay, but he claims it sounds flat. Also downtalk, it just sounds like more dominant.

This sounds great on paper. But most of the time, I have a natural sounding conversation. I emotionally spice it when she is disinterested. I hit her with a vocal modulation. I’m much more expressive too. I move my hands instead of squaring off with a large body for presence. Not all Asian clients have the presence. Also making constant eye contact, just creeps her out. She doesn’t even know what to say. I never square off ever. I have a superior level of vocal modulation. But I do have a natural neutral tonality conversation mixed with emotional spices. If you stood in front of your friend and you talked. But you squared off, its intimidating.

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Social comfort/rapport/connection. For this category, it is non existent in the 3 minute conversation you are suppose to do before a number close. The logic was, build attraction, she doesn’t have a lot of time.

That sounds great, but connection and social comfort is important in my system. It draws her into and builds a solid connection. You reduce getting flaked on. You get her to open up. But if you were a 5’11 handsome Asian guy with good fashion and big muscles.  You really don’t need to build a connection. But most Asians are just going to get destroyed here. Also, most Asian guys who daygames Asian girls are going to suffer here because they only focus on comfort game.


Escalation, kino, progressive escalation. Non existent in the other natural and direct program.

Without this crucial stage. Even going for instadates. He doesn’t progressively touch. I need to, in order to get hotter girls. I’m shorter and lover on the value scale. If you are bigger, you can get away without touching. His presences does the work for him. But is that transferable. That is one of the secrets. Or it is your LMS vs hers. Which one says more to her? Your touch? or your words? A touch is always more powerful than words. It takes a huge degree of social calibrations to progressively kino. Like high fives, half hugs, hugs, palm reads, hand holds, kissing. Most people can’t do it sometimes. They are frightened they would seem creepy. But when I do it, I have no nervousness and she isn’t creeped out. I have a huge degree of reference experience. I have never been kicked out of any malls or universities before. Neither have my students yet.

I call this QFT or qualify, flirt touch. Level 1-5. The other guy talks about verbally escalating. We do that here too. We just categorize that as a flirt. So the qualify, or touch isn’t there. But if you want to pull women like mine. You have to do it. Especially if you are short, skinny or just average looking.


Would you pay $1500 to learn the three vibes and this copy and paste RSD nonsense? Mixed with some Matt Artisan and Simple Pickup natural and direct game? I sure as hell wouldn’t. If you want to learn RSD nonsense. Go learn it from the real people themselves. Not some Julien copy and paste game. No wonder you are failing. Unless you are 5’11 and 200 pounds of muscles. I suggest you don’t even attempt this. You would just stink up the field for the good PUAs out there. Wait are there good PUAs here? Not many. Just my students who doesn’t give endless compliments and validation. I can see why it sounds good if you are really good looking. But I have never seen a single guy doing natural and direct get a girl higher than them in the looks scale. At least not yet. The natural and direct coaches are often way more handsome than their students. So it doesn’t count. Real talk. I’m not hating. I’m just informing. If I say nothing, more Asians will be deceived by the copy and paste RSD direct game nonsense that doesn’t work for Asians who are short and skinny.

But the only thing natural about my game is my delivery. I do teach a natural delivery. If you take away the direct from natural game. You have some decent tools for delivery. But for Asian guys with a low universal attractive scale. Dude, you need to maximize your game too. Along with your looks. Most of you won’t even change your hairstyle. If I suggested it, you would cringe hard and get stubborn. Either learn Wayne Game or you are fucked. I hope I outlined some good reasons why you should switch to the better brand or style. If anything I have more testimonials from daygame than anyone else for f-closes, pulls, dates. Remember, if you see all these concepts taking that course. It was all listed here first. It is your fault.

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-John Wayne

 

 

What is the real cause of Asian daygamers issues? Where does it come from?

You ever wondered why Asian daygamers are never really that good when they are shorter, skinnier. Or wondered why most tall buffed Asians dating coaches who looks max gets results and their students doesn’t? If you count tinder or night game as results. I hope to change this stereotype. I’ll cover everything. as03

Their parents are part of the issue. They are called tiger parents. Although this is more true of the lighter skin Asian ethnicities. Academic success is often more important than social skills or seduction skills. The reason was, these fobby immigrant parents are usually in it for themselves. They are in survival mode when they moved here. They weren’t thinking of the next generation. But how the current generation can survive. They often expect their kids to take care of them when they get older. This is their retirement plan. So that is why you see so many Asians live with their parents instead of moving out. This is a form of manipulation. To be completely helpless by over bearing parents. There is a high rate of psychopathy among Chinese parents. If you see Chinese daygamers out there. You have noticed, they don’t actually have empathy or understand you. It isn’t a co-incidence. They see their kids as bags of money or robots that can be trained. Their lack of empathy means they see them as their retirement plans. tigerparents.png

The idea to most Asian guys are, if they get good grades and made enough money. Then they can buy a house and a car. A wife will magically fall into their lap. They are the ultimate survival value, boyfriend provider type. Not so much the replication value guy with seduction skills, muscles and good looks. Over time Asian guys lose out on their ability for social skills. It is why you see a lot of Asian daygame coaches and Asians are so cringe worthy. Like some form of mild autism. It is really the lack of basic social skills and communication skills. That is why you see behavior such as short conversations, uptalking, putting white women on the pedestal for Asian students. You also see the lack of fashion or bad hairstyles. Its always towel dried hair, baggy clothing or wax, gel. You always see them saying what is wrong with the way I look? Well you don’t fit into a white girls tribe. You also sadly see a lot of rich Asians who gets old. They established themselves, just to find that everything their parents have told them was a lie. A wife didn’t fall magically into their lap. They become disgruntled.

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What happens was a lot of Asian guys finds RSD or tall Asian dating coaches to be appealing. They say oh they get results. But, don’t realize it was Tinder and night game results. Not daygame results. You have to ask yourself, just like with tall handsome white dating coaches, who has the same natural advantages. What factors was creating their success? Do you have these same factors? I suppose when the Asian clients doesn’t have strong social skills. What they see from this direct game coaches was wow, looks don’t matter. Go direct and be in the moment, express yourself. They do that for a few months and burn out on game. They are impressionable when they started. What appeals to most Asians are RSD. They believe by saying looks don’t matter, they are enough. Or some inner game bullshit. They often are like going out there with limited social skills creeping out most girls. Its usually either RSD, Simple Pickup or some form of direct game. Asians are addicted to direct game. This is the instructor who trained another dating coach locally. Both have been though controversy before. You can see it in their eyes, they really have no empathy. Not sure if you caught on yet. This sort of style or linage was what destroyed Vancouver.

The theory of looks (protector status/face/muscles/fashion), natural status (social standing, ethnicity) + how much game you need to compensate. This theory is universal for daygame. Honestly if I was as tall or strong as these other few Asian dating coaches. Who are essentially looks maxing while having really bad game. So their clients can’t use it, or isn’t transferable. I mean I do sometimes wear heel lifts to boost my height. Also, I wear this muscle suit. But I have to max out on game. Real game isn’t direct game. I teach a style of semi direct (push/pull), situational game, indirect game. As an Asian, you can’t go direct every single time. It is really about the lack of value. You need enough time to not be auto rejected to demonstrate your game.

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The solution would be to stop using direct game or natural and direct. You can vibe your value talking normally and expression yourself switching vibes. But you can only get girls below your looks scale and auto rejected. You have to learn how to change your openers to match the girls state of mind. If she is happy and smiling, go semi neutral direct with a push pull. I never give validation without taking it away. If she half smiles, go situational openers. If she is frowning, go indirect. Now you have three different methods of opening and a higher success rate. Learn how to tease and inbetween conversational skills. Or social comfort. This requires a huge degrees of conversational skills most Asian daygame coaches doesn’t have. Besides myself. Also, learn how to progressively escalate. If you have height, muscles and good looks. Then you don’t have to escalate physically. But if you are like me, you have no choice. But can you do it without creeping her out? The faster Asian guys unplugs from this direct game cult nonsense. The faster they would get laid like my students. Its sad seeing this. I would outline my end game or the motivation I have of being a dating coach. Why I criticize other Asian daygame coaches. Even though my students clearly out does all of theirs combined. How I get hotter girls than they can. Taller, higher on the looks scale of them and myself. Doing same day lays. I hope you are listening. If not, you are your own worst enemy and have yourself to blame.

Its really idealistic thinking vs truth seeker thinking. Ideal sounds good. Proof based thinking doesn’t. Check out my testimonial section for proof. I better update it. I might even post a picture with a blurred face. So you know these are all real people just like you and I.

-John Wayne