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Why Worshipping a Dating Coach Will Not Get You Laid

Reposting an old video updating it. But the message is what I want to say.

Long ass post, read everything.

If you keep copying daygame mentors’ infields and still are not getting laid…

You are using the wrong model.

You think mentors can do it, and worshipping like a sheep without critical thinking will get you laid…

However, coaches can better transfer the skills than a mentor.

I am a coach, and very proud of it.

675 laid and pulled testimonials prove you do not need to worship me, since I have more laid testimonials than all of the global game platform scammers combined for daygame.

Also, my Pakistani mentor, who is the best daygamer I know, cannot coach it anyways.

Do you want results… or do you want to worship?

The Mentor Mentality Is the Problem

Everything you have been learning was a lie when it comes to daygame products.

The reason why it does not work for other dating coaches is because you are using the mentor mentality.

You believe that if they can do it, you can do it.

But you never thought about mentors versus coaches versus teachers.

So I am going to bust this myth for you.

Everything you were told is a lie.

So do not worship dating coaches if you want to get laid fast without using alcohol in daygame.

Using that in the bedroom, wrestling with drunk women, this type of game, wrestling with drunk women using romantic sexual, is not legal, technically speaking.

Also, it causes Stockholm syndrome where the woman sides with her captor.

So do you want to get laid faster, even using daygame products like mine, online training, without depending on a bootcamp?

You do not have to depend on this mentor mentality because it is mental.

Why Following the Mentor Does Not Automatically Give You Results

The mentor mentality is like, oh, you trade places with the other person.

If they get results, you get results, and all of this bullshit one after another.

But you cannot figure out why people always follow these dating coaches.

They never ever get results no matter how hard they try.

They always, always fail, and they do not know why they are failing.

They believe that if they follow the mentor, they will get results.

But I am not a mentor.

I am a coach.

I had a Pakistani mentor, and he does not know how to teach anything.

That is why it is very important to not depend on this mentor mentality.

I have 675 lay and pull testimonials.

We could go through all of them.

I really do not have time to go through every single lay testimonial.

You just have to go check out my testimonial page.

The Mentor Myth

So this is the mentor myth.

If you can do it, I can do it automatically for daygame.

That is false.

That is false.

Basically, my Pakistani mentor is the best daygamer in the world that I know.

I have never seen anyone like him.

He is actually banging Andrew Tate’s kind of girlfriends.

He is just completely using social skills and social calibrations as a Pakistani guy.

Therefore, he is a mentor.

That is why I call him my Pakistani mentor.

It does not automatically mean he knows how to teach me.

He says, “John, go look at me and try to study me like this is a zoo and this is a habitat. Try to study what I am doing and try to reverse engineer it for your students.”

So therefore, my Pakistani mentor, even though he is the best daygamer, is kind of like learning from Elon Musk.

They can only give you a few tips here and there.

They are not good at coaching.

Teacher Versus Coach Versus Mentor

A teacher means it is all theory.

Basically, when you look at a teacher in your university and he is teaching you how to do marketing and sales and all this internet stuff, he may not actually have any experience.

That is what they call a teacher.

Teachers are just theory junkies.

Much like what you find on these forum groups where everyone has their own fucking theories.

This is not the most transferable thing.

Teacher means it is all theory.

A coach means it is somebody who has experience but still can coach you step by step.

They can build training programs, which I am very good at.

I have the experience.

I have over 25 years of experience in daygame.

I started in 2001.

A dating coach does not have to be the best PUA in the world.

He just has to be the best dating coach in the world.

The Mayweather Example

Look at Mayweather, for example.

His team, his father teaches him, his uncle teaches him.

They do not have to be the best boxers in the world.

They have to be good enough, but they can transfer the skills by coaching Mayweather Jr. to have 50 and 0.

So therefore, this idea that, oh, if you can do it, you can do it, they may be using game crutches.

That is why you are always stuck.

So a mentor is somebody who is doing it, but they are the least transferable because, like my Pakistani mentor was saying, observe me, try to extract the lessons.

So here are a few tips, but he cannot teach it.

Musicians Play Their Instruments. I Play the Orchestra

Steve Jobs, they asked him exactly what he does, right?

Steve, you are not the best programmer in Apple.

You are not the best at anything.

And then you know what Steve Jobs said?

How come ten times a day I read that Steve Jobs is a genius?

What do you do?

“I play the orchestra.”

I think it was in a movie.

I am not sure if it is a real quote.

Steve Jobs says this, he is not the best programmer, right?

Steve Jobs says musicians play their instruments.

I play the orchestra.

I will say this again.

Musicians or mentors play their instruments.

They are like, look at me.

I am the best violin player, right?

You can only learn from me.

I am the best violin player.

I am playing this violin.

I am the best.

I am the best.

I am the best.

But I conduct the orchestra.

I literally run the wars of all my students like a general.

That is what Steve Jobs meant when he says musicians play their instruments, I play the orchestra.

It means I am the general.

I am the general.

They are just good soldiers, good musicians playing their instruments.

Who gives a fuck?

Why Their Products Keep Failing

So they are like, look at me.

I am a mentor.

I am a mentor.

Woo.

But you never, ever get laid in their products.

You always get stuck.

You wonder how come every product you buy, because you have this mentor mentality, they can do it, you can do it.

But that is the wrong mentality.

Can they coach you?

The only time they can ever get you results is in their bootcamps, never in their products.

Have you noticed that?

It is not a coincidence.

They are good soldiers, so they are playing a small part of the instruments, but it does not mean shit.

Phil Jackson Versus Kobe Bryant As A Coach

Because sometimes a good example is like Phil Jackson versus Kobe Bryant.

Kobe Bryant was using grape game, and Kobe Bryant cannot coach a team to victory.

Phil Jackson is not the best basketball player in the world.

He is the best coach in the world.

So therefore, you cannot discount Phil Jackson and say Kobe Bryant.

The reason why I say my Pakistani mentor is Michael Jordan is because he is the best.

Or a guy with a darker complexion, he is banging like 9 out of 10s, like Andrew Tate’s girlfriends all the time.

He did that 15 times in a row, and all the women looked at me and they scoffed when they saw me in the mansion.

So while he can do it, it does not mean he can teach me how to do it.

But he can mentor me.

He can give me tips.

He can answer real time questions, just like Elon Musk.

Bro Science Versus Transferable Skill

Elon Musk is not a teacher.

So I can learn from him, field test, split test, and then give it to you guys and then you guys get results.

You see where I am going with this?

Sometimes a coach is better than a teacher, but that is like bro science, you know?

It is like bro science.

It is like, I am only going to listen to a mentor who is able to get a lot of muscles.

Let us say the bro science guy takes steroids.

And you are like, oh, I can only listen to him.

It is the same thing as listening to other dating coaches.

I can only listen to the steroid guy.

But in reality, that guy is cheating, just like grape game or they are using status maxing.

That is why it never works for you, except for their bootcamps once in a while, but it never works for their products.

It is a complete lie.

Doctors, Coaches, and What Actually Gets Results

Because this mentor mentality, that guy takes steroids and is like, oh, he looks strong, therefore I will listen to him, and then ignore your doctor who is more like the teacher.

Your doctor may not necessarily be strong, but he could still give good advice regarding your health.

He would probably tell you not to take steroids.

Do you see where I am going with this?

The mentor versus the coach versus the teacher.

You have got to find out which one works for you at any given situation.

Sometimes in life, for your health problems, maybe a doctor might be better, or a nutritionist, right?

He may not look like the youngest person.

He may not be the strongest person.

But he might give the best advice.

Whoever gets you the most results is the most important.

Why So Many Men Stay Stuck

That is the problem.

A lot of guys need to worship.

They need to worship so hard because of their mindset.

That is why they are stuck year after year.

They are stuck.

They never get results and they are always funneled into a bootcamp.

So let me explain further so you guys get it.

So when they use grape game, it is not the best way of doing things.

So anyone who says only they can teach it with this mentor myth is just full of shit.

Ask yourself why their daygame products never work, ever.

Have you ever wondered, you bought so many products, their products have come out, somehow when they released their products, nobody got laid.

And you are wondering, how is that possible?

Because they are the mentor.

So they already demonstrated their products do not work.

Launch Products Versus Evergreen Products

So now they always come out with a new product.

I always have the same products because they work.

They are evergreen.

They last forever.

They are having what they call launch products versus evergreen.

Evergreen means for the rest of my life, these products always work.

For them, the launch products never work.

They always launch a new product.

Oh, but the promise to give you the secret.

There is no secret.

It is just grape.

They wrestle with drunk women in the bedroom.

So you learn that in the bootcamps there.

Therefore, you never get laid.

There is no secret sauce.

The game is only 2.5 points.

You are just regurgitating and doing the same fucking 2.5 points over and over and over again, so therefore you never get laid.

The Crutch Problem

So why do they always use game corrections like grape game?

Or students wrestling with drunk women?

They will never show that in their video.

Even if they show all the subtitles, they will never show in that bedroom when their students have a champagne bottle next to them, just like their old infields.

That is what it is like illegally winning the game.

It is just brute forcing it right in the bedroom.

That means everything before the grape does not technically work right before that point.

I hope I got that point across.

So therefore you are always stuck because the alcohol crutch or the status maxing crutch is not technically transferable.

Instagram Status Maxing Does Not Transfer

For example, let us say they are using Instagram.

A lot of coaches are doing this, not just one, I would say dozens, maybe several dozen coaches these days believe in status maxing.

Let us say they use an Instagram close because they have more status, they display their status.

But at that point of the number close with the Instagram, everything before that point does not work without it, because that is the conversion mechanism.

When you take away that Instagram, all the advice before that will not work.

Just like in the bedroom when they are using alcohol and club game.

Everything before the pulling, everything before the instant date, everything before the daygame, none of it works by itself.

That is why the products do not work.’

The Circle of Death

I am reviewing the secrets of the industry, why it keeps going in a circle.

It is a circle of death, a downward spiral, where everybody just keeps failing because they are not using the alcohol crutch, and some of you cannot actually run this status maxing game.

I have students who are engineers who are on vacation, but they can only go for two weeks, just for two weeks.

They cannot raise their high status job.

They are not like a DJ, a club promoter.

They are not like some kind of high status music producer.

They have none of this status.

They are a fucking engineer.

And afterwards, you have to think about the lifestyle.

How much of a lifestyle can they do?

They cannot have women twerking on their fucking Instagram because the people at their jobs, their bosses, are like, what the fuck is this?

They will get in trouble at work, so therefore they cannot run that.

The Third Funnel

But there is a third funnel that works, which is what I can teach you as a coach.

The third funnel is all of you guys have a friend who is actually good with women.

He has a rectangular jawline.

He has good social skills.

He is a very nice guy, and he has no problems whatsoever.

He is probably married to a white girl.

You all have that friend, but that is exactly what I teach.

Body language.

Social calibrations.

Social skills.

Emotional control.

Whitewashed tonality.

You always have that friend.

So there are actually three funnels.

It is not just a fucking game funnel.

It is not always status maxing.

Why the Third Funnel Is Transferable

If you want status maxing, it only works for 1% of the population.

It does not work for you.

If it works for 1% of the population, then it is not transferable.

And why would you need nightgame?

Not all of you are club promoters or anything related to that.

You do not own a nightclub, you do not have any status.

So why would you do that?

It is impossible for you to do it because you have obligations in your job.

You would have to be an entrepreneur to make that work.

And you need at least six figures to seven figures to run that kind of lifestyle.

That is the truth, and you all know it.

What My Pakistani Mentor Actually Taught Me

But there is a third funnel my Pakistani mentor does.

He dresses whitewashed, number one.

Number two, he talks like a white guy.

Even if you have an Indian accent, if you talk whitewashed like I will teach you, then you can bypass her defenses because she cannot actually think you are Indian.

If she cannot match the accent with the stereotype, and if you look like the 4 out of 10 whitewashed Indian, then therefore your status goes up.

It is that simple.

Good body language, this, that, and close.

I have so many Indian students getting laid in daygame.

This is not a coincidence.

There is a third funnel that you guys are not aware of.

That is what my Pakistani mentor taught me.

A mentor.

But I am a coach.

I am a dating coach, and I am good at what I do.

I Am the General, Not the Soldier

I am the general.

I am not the soldier.

I am the guy who plays the orchestra.

I run all these students, all their game in my mind, like a general.

They are fighting their own wars.

But instead, you want to listen to that fucking musician saying, I am a good musician, I am a mentor.

That is mentor.

I am a good musician, therefore I am the only one who can teach it.

Your products do not work.

I mean, think about it this way, how many products would they release until they give you the solution?

How many products?

I only release two products and they work.

They have proven to work.

Why Their Products Still Do Not Work

Their stuff does not work for most of them for the products.

In fact, they have zero track record of it working for any of it.

Less than five daygame lay testimonials.

We are not talking about mixing with a nightgame component because that is not actually daygame.

That is setup game.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with that if you guys can do it, have a lot of energy.

I just do not think it is transferable.

It is cool that they can do it, but can other people do it?

Why Bootcamps Become the Slaughterhouse For Stupid Sheeps

As you are dealing with objections, you try to get as drunk as possible with vodka and Pepsi, and they call it bedroom escalation to sexualize it.

This is illegal, so that is why you would be doing their bootcamps.

That is why their daygame products are a total waste of time.

Other crutches, you see status maxing.

I mean, how many of you can do it?

I cannot even do it.

I do not have the energy.

I am not an extrovert.

The last hidden secret is you believe bootcamps are the only option to get laid in daygame, but you are being taken for a ride because time and time again, their daygame products do not actually work.

Why Sheep Keep Blaming Themselves

But you get so stuck, so you start to blame yourself.

Like a good sheep.

That is right.

You get burned.

You think this mentor mentality, this musician who is good at music, I am playing the orchestra.

You all need the general to get you laid faster because I have 675 lay testimonials.

Then you say to yourself, what is wrong with me?

You need a bootcamp because you blame yourself if you do not get laid during the products because you are worshipping like a sheep, and since you do not get laid, you are like, well, if the coach can do it, I can do it.

This mentor mentality is bullshit.

My Products Work. Theirs Do Not

Not this dating coach, but they say they are a good dating coach.

Well divide my daygame lay testimonials versus theirs.

We will see who is actually a better coach.

My stuff works even for the products, but you have to do the 30 day challenge.

My stuff works for online coaching, 3MP.

It works, it works, it works.

Their stuff does not fucking work.

Just six months to misery.

Maybe over a long term you might number game it.

It barely works.

Then you go into their bootcamps as they extract more money out of you.

Follow the Money

It is much like an Andrew Tate concept.

Fatten the goose, feed the geese.

That means first of all, you have got to turn a person into a goose.

That is why the product makes you worship.

The product does not work.

They are not going to work.

They will fatten up the sheep.

They will keep feeding you more and more bullshit with half truth pills.

They will tell you bullshit lies.

Follow the money.

Do not listen to what they say.

Look at what they do.

They will declare all day that they do not like money.

“I do not like money, I just want to retire,” blah blah blah.

And the sheep are like, oh yes yes.

They are stupid.

It is easy to fool them.

-John Elite

P.S I don’t want to have a worsheeping audience. Just because other daygame coaches stands next to women, who knows how they got there. You assume it was because of a lay. I say there is either a financial incentive, or it raises their status. If they don’t have status and they are using that to explain coaching. You are a sheep worshipping. optics because you are a stupid delusional cluster B narcissistic sociopath triggered sheep with no critical thinking. As soon as they do that, your brain shuts down and open up to brainwashing like a garbage can.

Why Worshipping A Dating Coach For Daygame Does Not Get You Laid

A lot of you are stuck because you think worship equals results…

and it does not.

My system is the Arrow Science…

Maneuver… Sexualize… Objection Loop.

I am not trying to be Michael Jordan.

I am trying to be Phil Jackson.

That means I am not here to impress you with aura…

I am here to help you win championships.

That is the difference.

The problem with this mentor worship mentality is very simple.

You see a coach taking action…

you see a coach standing next to women…

you see a coach who looks the part…

and you assume he must be good.

But being good at doing something and being good at coaching it are not the same thing.

Michael Jordan was one of the best players ever…

but that does not automatically mean he would be the best coach.

Same thing with daygame.

Some coaches can posture well…

market well…

film well…

or look like they are winning…

but that does not mean they can transfer results to students.

That is the part delusional people never understand.

Worship Creates Fake Certainty

When people are insecure…

especially in a bad economy…

they become more delusional.

And when people become more delusional…

they start worshipping more.

They assume…

this guy is taller…

this guy is better looking…

this guy has a better aura…

this guy has better optics…

so therefore he must be the answer.

That is not critical thinking.

That is idol worship.

It is the same thing in marketing.

People worship gurus not because the gurus can transfer the skill…

but because the gurus are very good at selling the fantasy.

They know how to make you believe.

That does not mean they know how to make you win.

A lot of people do not buy coaching because they want results.

They buy coaching because they want to feel close to somebody they admire.

That is a completely different reason.

And that is why they stay stuck.

Optics Are Not Results

One of the biggest scams in this industry is optics.

You see a perfectly crisp DSLR clip…

you see a coach standing next to a woman…

you see a cinematic thumbnail…

and now your mind assumes…

this guy must be crushing it.

But what do you actually know?

You do not know where the woman came from.

You do not know what happened after the clip.

You do not know whether he got the number…

the instant date…

the pull…

or the lay.

For all you know…

it is just optics.

And this is what I mean when I say worshipping is dangerous.

You stop using your brain.

You stop asking…

where are the student results…

where are the recent results…

where is the transferability…

where is the proof that this still works after inflation… after tariffs… after all the stress of 2025 and 2026?

Instead…

you just assume the image is enough.

It is not enough.

Student Results Matter More Than Aura

People can falsely accuse me of not having students laid in 2025…

but that is not true.

I showed the results.

Yes…

I repost some of the testimonials.

Why…

because a lot of them are 18 plus…

and I cannot just leave everything floating around forever in the same way.

So sometimes I move things up again.

But my students got laid last year…

the year before…

and the year before that.

That matters.

A lot more than image.

A lot more than aura.

A lot more than worship.

My students do not treat me like somebody to worship.

They treat me like Phil Jackson.

They say…

John… tell me what I need to do to get the results of your other students.

That is the right attitude.

They care about the plays.

They care about the drills.

They care about the system.

They do not care about idolizing me.

That is why they move forward.

The Three Categories Of People

I break people down into three categories.

The first category is the zombies.

These are usually my students…

or people like my students.

They may have gotten some results before… or maybe not…

but now they are low on memory… low on energy… low on focus… and low on emotional control.

The zombies do not need somebody to worship.

They need somebody to tell them what the play is.

They need structure.

They need drills.

They need a coach.

The second category is the sheep.

The sheep always need to worship.

It is in their nature.

They assume…

if the coach can do it…

then I can do it too.

They do not understand systems.

They do not understand transferability.

They do not understand what is actually being taught.

They just latch onto image… aura… or social proof… and think that is enough.

It is not enough.

The third category is the small group of real students.

These are the people with tenacity.

These are the people who do not need to worship.

They listen…

apply…

drill…

adapt…

and get better.

That group is smaller than ever now…

but it is still the only group that matters.

The Four Traits Of Low Self Esteem In Daygame

There are four traits I keep seeing in low self esteem daygamers.

The first is delusion.

The second is half assing it…

usually through mass approaching… random tactics… and no deep skill building.

The third is bad decision making.

The fourth is quitting.

Because they are delusional…

they have to worship.

That is why this whole industry keeps reproducing the same cycle.

They see somebody who looks cool…

or a guy who still has some old footage…

or somebody with strong branding…

and they think the answer is to copy the vibe.

That is not game.

That is fantasy.

And fantasy does not transfer.

Crutches Expire

A lot of methods only worked because they had crutches.

Alcohol…

social circle advantages…

status…

optics…

old market conditions…

easier times before inflation and tariffs.

Take away the crutch…

and now you find out if the coach really had game.

A lot of them did not.

They could brute force pulls…

or push things through in the bedroom…

or use social momentum…

but once the environment changed…

once women got more stressed…

once the economy got worse…

the student results started drying up.

That is why I keep saying worship is dangerous.

You can be worshipping a coach whose edge already expired.

And because you are worshipping…

you do not even notice.

Even If I Film Infields… The Sheep Still Need Somebody To Worship With Higher Halo Effect Than Me

Let us say I start filming infields again tomorrow.

Let us say I show more approaches… more conversations… more demos.

Would I get a huge flood of good students from that?

Maybe not.

Why…

because the audience has changed.

A lot of them are broke.

A lot of them are checked out.

A lot of them only want free content.

A lot of them are window shopping.

The only people left who still really care are often the sheep and the hardcore pickup artist types.

And the sheep do not want coaching.

They want somebody to worship.

So even then…

there is no guarantee.

If you are the type of person who needs to worship before you can listen…

then I am probably not the right coach for you.

Because I am not trying to be a guru.

I am trying to be the guy who gives you the right plays.

Worship Does Not Guarantee Results

Worshipping a coach does not guarantee results.

It is just like weightlifting.

Let us say you want bigger muscles.

You might see a guy who looks amazing…

and assume that because he looks the part… he must be the best person to learn from.

But what if he is using crutches…

chemical help…

special advantages…

or shortcuts that do not transfer to you?

Now you are following image instead of method.

That is exactly what happens in daygame.

The scientist type…

the doctor type…

the systems type…

those people may not always trigger worship.

But they are the ones who understand transferability.

They are the ones who can actually explain why results happen.

That matters more than whether they trigger idol worship in low IQ followers.

Why I Keep Posting Student Proof

People can hate me all they want.

That is fine.

I will still keep posting proof.

I will still keep posting video testimonials.

Because I want to be known as the Phil Jackson of daygame.

Not the guy you worship…

the guy who gets students results.

That is the difference.

If you want somebody to worship…

go somewhere else.

If you want somebody to help you understand the plays…

the drills…

the Arrow Science…

and how to repeat success…

then that is what I do.

Maneuver, sexualize and objections looping.

Not maneuver with romantic flirts where you don’t fit into the boyfriend frame

Then you use alcohol to deal with the objections, which should be illegal

Then you sexualize it by heavy bedroom escalation

Its why they don’t have a lot of bootcamp student proof anymore because women are too resistant in the last few years.

Bad economy, these alcohol crutches won’t work.

-John Elite