Dear Shawn, one of my biggest fans. My scientific foolproof argument why I disagree with you about the front stop


I asked him my game is 90%? but not 100%? He brought up a point about I don’t teach or do front stops. How its like Justin Wayne’s point stop and the London daygame model.

That’s a strawman argument out of ignorance. He said if I acknowledge other coaches I will have more credibility. Umm, my credibility isn’t in question. I have more student results.

But while this can create resentment. I decided to debate this point with a fan. I hear people make misconceptions. The first one is I don’t use a front stop. But how many infields did you see? Its in Wayne 30: From Hardcase to Hero.

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Front stop, John Wayne style

Most of my game is top secret. I only teach it to my paying clients and students. The game you see publicly isn’t really the same as what I teach. Not as in detail. When you learn from me, no one ever seen anything so scientific. For the first time I will reveal my front stop to non paying customers.

Lets say this for example, I reveal it to the world. Then shitty coaches like white dating coaches, good thing they dismiss it. Even if its scientifically works all over Europe and Vancouver. But what if something like this gets into the wrong hands. A shitty coach like Krooked Karisma King said okay i’ll try it. Oh shit, it really works. Fuck, maybe i’ll steal it and call it my own. I’ll be teaching him indirectly.

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Although this is top secret, I decided to reveal this one because i’m backed into a corner based on ignorance. The first step involves putting your hand out to the side. Empathize with the girl. I’m like really far, this doesn’t work close. Or her momentum will walk past you. The distance is extremely far. I got her attention. Like I said, when you get the right distance, I can get it to work every single time in front of bootcamp students. If they are too close, it doesn’t work. This is a science, not a theory or opinions as facts.vlcsnap-2018-11-06-00h53m04s801.png

Fuck my life, I am revealing it to a student who said he wants to train with me one day or something. I lean in a 45 degree angle. Everything matters, every angle. Just like Krav Maga when I am weapon disarming. I now got more of her attention. But I make sure the moves are smooth but separated.

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As she walks by, I start speaking I was going that direction. I now switch hands to the other one. Not the same hand. But either will work, but this one diverts her attention. She stops exactly in front of you where the momentum will stop her. Its a science, a repeatable science.

Wait, so John has a front stop? Ummm, dude, I have a stop from every angle. But why so technical? My game is the most scientific in the world. Not only did I cover every angle, steps, distance, empathy. I make Todd Valentine look amateurish. Some idiot on youtube said, Todd does it better because of London Daygame this or that, he talks to the girls and it looks smoother. Ummm. Dude, Todd Valentine just calls an infield stopped half way a pull or when she gets in the car.

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So because he said its working for me but it looks super gamey. Ummm, there is a lot of stupidity in that statement. The sheer ignorance vs the worlds best dating coach. But I have to now clear the misconceptions. In the last post I talk about people thinking with theories and emotions. Now would he train under me if I offended him? lets see. So if the 90% thing is because of an alternative front stop, but its in my system.

Its true, Deepak and I teach similar but different systems. Its always been a secret we keep from the world. But Deepak and I invented the point stop together. He knows it but doesn’t always have to use it. He did it in his product meet women everyday. He point to the side and down. Which means you haven’t seen it. I can find the screenshot but will take more time.

Justin’s seeking arrangement bullshit game is for the black Wayne with different SMV. He is black so he touches with dominance. Does that make sense? Deepak does an over the shoulder smiling, friendly chat. In Vancouver, its like London, they walk fast. So distance matters. I’ll find screenshot of Justin Wayne’s stop so I can pin point the science of why its wrong. Its not subjective.

But there are 3 Waynes. With different SMV or sexual market value. Therefore we all made different adaptations to the game. I told the world that Deepak and my game were similar. But in Londons Immersion program, we both taught two versions of the game. The students picked and choosed what worked best for them. It was the first time I saw Deepak teach his full game and he saw mine. Both are superior to anything on the market. But mine was designed for Asians, the lowest common denominator.

LONDON DAYGAME STOP

LETS START WITH THE SOURCE OF WHERE THE RUNNING STOP ORGINATED, IN LONDON. YES JOHN WAYNE IS FRIENDS WITH YAD. WEIRD RIGHT? IT MIGHT SHOCK YOU, BUT WE KNOW EACH OTHER. HE KNOWS I’M THE THIRD WAYNE. ITS WHY I DONT ATTACK YAD, EVEN IF I COULD. BUT I DO HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN OPINION.

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I’M A SCIENTIST, NOT A PHILOSOPHER. REMEMBER MY VIDEO ON IDEALISTIC THINKING. IF I EXPLAIN WHY THIS DOESN’T WORK, YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND IT IS HARD TO COUNTER MY LOGIC OR SCIENCE.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, WILL THE GIRL HEAR SUCH A STOP A GUY RUNNING UP? IN VANCOUVER AS SOON AS YOU ACT PUA, THEY RUN. HE DIDN’T STOP THE GIRL, I HAVE A PIC, BUT SHE LEFT. THE REASON WHY IS PRESSURE AND RELEASE. WITHOUT THE COMPLEMENT, THAT ACTS AS A RELEASE. THEY FEEL PRESSURED A TALL GUY IS RUNNING FULL SPEED. IT IS VERY BETA AND ITS NOT STEALTH. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

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I NEVER FACE THE FRONT TO FRONT LIKE THIS. UNLESS YOU ARE A BIGGER GUY, THIS DOENS’T WORK FOR ME. IT ALSO PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE. IF THE PRESSURE AND RELEASE CONCEPT, THE GIRL WOULD MOSTLY WALK AS IT HAPPENED TO YAD IN VANCOUVER. IF I CAN FIND THE OTHER SCREEHSHOT. ITS THERE SOMEWHERE.

IN ALL MY BOOTCAMPS, WHEN THE STUDENT STANDS 45 DEGREES LIKE DEEPAK AND ME, THEY STAY. THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT AND WHY WE BOTH DO THAT. IT TAKES THE PRESSURE AWAY. ITS ALSO IN WAYNE 30: FROM HARDCASE TO HERO.

SCIENTIFIC WORLDS BEST DATING COACH METHOD

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YOU SHOULD BE AT A FURTHER DISTANCE. BUT I HAVE ENOUGH DISTANCE WHERE IF YOU STOP HER MOMENTUM WON’T GET PAST YOU.
NOTICED THE BIG SECRET, THE GIRL NEVER SAW JOHN WAYNE, SO HE ALREADY SNEAKED IN LIKE A SUBMARINE. THE STEALTH IS THE SECRET TO GETTING IN FRONT. I DON’T WALK LIKE A PUA, I WALK NATURALLY, ITS MANEUVER WARFARE.
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THE BIG SECRET BEHIND THIS ONE IS THE TWO SECOND EYE CONTACT TO GET HER ATTENTION. MOST STUDENTS DOES HALF A SECOND THEN STARTS OPENING LIKE A NEEDY FUCK. I HAVE 2 SECONDS, BEFORE I CAN UNZIP MY MOUTH AND TALK. SHE WALKS PERFECTLY IN FRONT OF ME IF I HAVE ENOUGH DISTANCE. YOU CAN JUDGE BY HOW FAST SHE WALKS. vlcsnap-2018-11-06-02h06m02s402
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she walks closer without feeling any pressure. I can open and now she doesn’t need to walk away due to the pressure. If I faced her, its intimidating. YOU DON’T HAVE TO POINT, ITS OPTIONAL. BUT INCASE SHE IS GOING WAY TOO FAST, DO IT JUST INCASE. POINT BEHIND YOU, POINT TO A DOG, IT WILL LOOK AT YOUR FINGERS THEN BACKWARDS AND BACK FOWARD. ITS AN INVOLUNTARY REFLEX, YOU CAN’T HELP IT.

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I’ll talk about the Justin Wayne point stop, but I can’t find a video on it. But he grabs her inner arm and she stops.

IN VANCOUVER JAN THE SCAM HIGH SMV LIFESTYLE TOUCHED EVERY GIRL IN THEIR ARM. HE IS ALSO KICKED OUT OF HIS UNIVERSITY UBC AND KICKED OUT OF EVERY SINGLE MALL AND ALSO ON THE NEWS LIKE JULIEN BLANC HIS INSTRUCTOR. I NEVER HAD A SINGLE INCIDENCE BECAUSE MY STUDENTS ARE CALIBRATED. I HAVE NEARLY PERFECT OUTER GAME. ITS A SCIENCE.

OF COURSE RAT FACED KRAPISMA KING CAN DISMISS AND PROJECT HIS FOOD CRITIC THEORIES. HE CAN, BUT HE HAS ON IDEA WHAT THE FUCK HE IS TALKING ABOUT. HE HAS NO STUDENTS LAID IN DAYGAME SO I DON’T CARE ABOUT OPINIONS. NOW YOU CAN GET AN IDEA WHY MY STUDENTS ARE SO GOOD.

ANOTHER THING YOU MIGHT NOTICED BETWEEN ME AND TODD VALENTINE. I AM WAY MORE SCINENTIFIC BECAUSE THIS WORKS FOR EVERYONE. I’M NOT TRYING TO SOUND TECHNICAL, BUT THIS WORKS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION. JOHN WAYNE IS A CRAZY MAD SCIENTIST OF GAME. BUT A SCIENTIST WHO FIELD TEST. TALL GUYS ARE ALWAYS TOUCHING AND ITS NOT UNCOMMON IN VANCOUVER.

WHY DO OTHER GUYS TOUCH THE GIRL IN THE SHOULDER OR THE ARM? EVEN SOME TIME TRAVELLER BULLSHIT GUY TOUCHES. THEY USE THEIR SIZE TO DOMINATE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T FIGURED OUT HOW TO STOP THE GIRL. BUT DOES THAT PUT PRESSURE ON THE GIRL? YES OR NO? OF COURSE YES. IMAGINE A SMALL ASIAN GUY GRABBING HER SHOULDERS OF A HOT GIRL OR TOUCHING THE INSIDE OF HER ARM. WILL IT PUT PRESSURE OR GET HIM KICKED OUT OF THE MALL? OF COURSE.

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PREDATORY STOP. ONE OF HIS STUDENTS GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE SOMEONE THOUGHT HE TOUCHED THE GIRL IN THE BREAST IN A GAS STATION. HE GOT FINGER PRINTED DUE TO JANS GAME. I KICKED HIM OUT FOR BEING LATE TO THE BOOTCAMP. HE USED MY FAHSION ADVICE, GOT LAID IN DAYGAME, WHILE I WAS SOAKING IN THE RAIN. I SAID YOU HAVE TO PAY AN ASSHOLE TAX, TRIPLE. HE SAID I’LL TRAIN WITH JAN. BUT JAN IS KICKED OUT OF EVERYWHERE TOO, LOL. AUTISTIC PSYCHOPATHS. ALSO, JAN’S SMV IS HIGHER THAN YOURS. FOR THE DELUDED ASIANS IN VANCOUVER. HE ALSO HAS NO STUDENTS LAID FOR DAYGAME IN VANCOUVER YET. MAYBE JUST NIGHT GAME. HE IS TRAINED BY RSD JULIEN AND TYLER. ONLY KARISMA KING IS THE SECOND ONE WITHOUT ANY TESTIMONIALS. THEY BOTH SAY LOOKS DON’T MATTER. LYING THOUGH THEIR TEETH PSYCHOPATHS.

DOES JOHN USE STEATH FOR PRESSURE AND RELEASE TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN’T SHIT HER PANTS UNLIKE THE OTHERS? YES. I MEAN YOU CAN SAY TODD VALENTINE IS TECHNICAL. BUT HIS INFIELDS ENDS HALF WAY THEN CALLS IT A PULL OR LAY. OR HE GETS INTO A CAR THEN ITS A PULL. I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENED TO GETTING THE GIRL INTO THE BEDROOM OR AT LEAST THE DOOR? NOW YOU KNOW WHY THESE FRAUDS ARE FAKE. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE FIELD TESTING. THE GAME WAS DESIGNED THAT A SMALL ASIAN LIKE ME CAN USE IT TOO. I HAD TO ADAPT. I HAVE THE MOST TESTIMONIALS FOR A REASON. DISMISS IT ALL YOU WANT.

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I MEAN HOW MANY DOES OTHER COACHES HAVE FOR TESTIIMONIALS? LETS COUNT IT. I’LL COUNT MINE. WAIT, WHERE IS YOURS AGAIN?

DON’T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HOW TO STOP A GIRL WALKING FAST. I MEAN I HAVE A STOP FOR EVERYTHING. YOU HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN DEEPAKS SECRET TELEPHONE DHV STOP. I CAN’T TALK ABOUT IT MORE. LOTS OF OUR TECHNOLOGIES ARE SECRET WAYNE TECH. ALSO, FUCK JUSTIN WAYNE. HE HAS NO TESTIMONIALS, EXCEPT FOR HIS FORMER COACHES AS ONE. REST ARE JUST GIVE ME A TESTIMONIAL OR SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT ME. THEN HE TOOK ALL OF THAT AS TESTIMONIALS.

I GUESS HE SHOULD TEACH SEEKING ARRGAINGEMENTS GAME. ALSO I MENTIONED A FEW PEOPLE HERE WHO USED THAT. I KNOW WHO’S WHO. I’M NOT STUPID.

THIS IS ONLY A DROP IN THE BUCKET OF JOHN WAYNE’S GAME, JUST ONE PART. EVERY PART IS TECHNICAL AND PERFECT. IF I CAN DO ONE SHOT AND ONE KILL. MY STUDENTS CAN PULL IN 3-5 APPROACHES HERE. IF YOU DO IT WRONG, YOU PUT PRESSURE ON THE GIRL, YOU LOSE THE GIRL AND CALL IT A NUMBERS GAME. I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. IN MY WORLD, ITS A GAME OF CONVERSIONS. NOT NUMBERS. YOU KEPT HER OFF THE LINE AND SHE DEVIATED FROM IT BECAUSE YOU DID A CREEPY MOVE ON HER TOUCHING HER SHOULDERS OR SQUARELY FACING HER. ITS YOUR FAULT. NOT THE GIRLS.

IN KRAV MAGA, TO GET OUT OF HEADLOCKS AND DISARM GUNS. IF I AM IN THE WRONG ANGLE AT ALL, I GET SHOT IN THE RIBS OR CHOKED OUT. EVERY ANGLE COUNTS, EVERY STEP COUNTS. WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT, THE GUN IS IN YOUR HAND. ITS ABOUT SURVIVAL, A SCIENCE. NOT OPINIONS, BUT FIELD TESTED. ITS HOW I THINK. I’M A SCIENTIST, A SOILDER A DATING COACH, NOT A MARKETER.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT ISN’T POSTED ON MY BLOG, IS JUST AS IMPOTANT. I DON’T REVEAL THE TACTICS FOR A REASON. ITS TOO POWERFUL AND I’D RATHER COACH YOU INSTEAD. I’M NOT PUTTING ADVICE VIDEOS OF BULLSHIT FLUFF ADVICE LIKE RSD TO HOPE YOU RECIPROCATE BACK BECAUSE YOU FELT I GAVE VALUE AND YOU GIVE IT BACK OUT OF GUILT. I’M NOT GOING TO MANIPULATE YOU, I KNOW EVERY MANIPULATION TACTICS THEY USE. I’M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

YOU NOW SEE WHY I DON’T ALWAYS PUT ADVICE VIDEOS OUT THERE. ITS TOO FUCKING POWERFUL AND EFFECTIVE. WHAT THE FUCK AM I EVEN GOING TO SELL? YOU GUYS PUT IT OUT THERE FOR RECIPROCITY. ITS NOT LIKE YOUR GAME WORKS OR HAVE ANY TESTIMONIALS TO BACK IT UP FOR STUDENTS LAID IN DAYGAME. JUST STICK TO NIGHT GAME OR SOMETHING. YOU GIVE GOLDEN NUGGETS OR SO YOU THINK, I GIVE GOLD BARS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.


UPDATE: NOW PEOPLE ARE THINKING, HOLY FUCK IS JOHN ACTUALLY THAT TECHNICAL? OR SCIENTIFIC? HOW THE FUCK IS ANYONE THIS TECHNICAL AND CAN I EVER GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS? NOW ITS LIKE TODD VALENTINE IS A FUCKING JOKE, JUST STACKING A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT CONCEPTS TO BE MINDFUL OF. THIS IS 10X MORE PRACTICAL AND REALISTIC.
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE TRAINS UNDER ME, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THEY ARE FORCED TO MASTER THIS IN THE BOOTCAMP. I THINK I’M TOO HARSH SOMETIMES, THE STUDENTS JUST GETS TURNED OFF AFTER THE BOOTCAMP. YOU WANTED RESULTS, YOU ASKED THE DEVIL FOR RESULTS AND I DELIVERED. I DRILLED THEM INTO YOUR BODY LIKE THE MILITARY, GOT YOU LAID IN THE BOOTCAMP AND NOW YOU ARE BUTTHURT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST APPROACH, I COMFORT YOUR EGO AND YOU GET NO RESULTS? MY STUDENTS HAVE TO SAY YES SIR, OR SIR YES SIR AND DO SQUATS UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT.
ILLEGAL? IMMORAL? YOU ASKED ME JOHN I WANTED TO GET LAID, WELL REMEMBER, THERE IS A PRICE FOR PERFECTION. BECAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR, I’LL DELIEVER YOU RESULTS, BUT IT COMES AT AN EMOTIONAL COST. WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO DO, MASSAGE YOUR EGO AND TARNISH MY PERFECT COACHING RECORD, SORRY, NOT SRY. I TOLD YOU I WAS THE BEST DATING COACH IN THE WORLD. DON’T GET SHOCKED HOW TECHNICAL THE GAME IS. ITS BORDERLINE INSANE, BUT ITS BORN OUT OF THE BATTLEFIELD OF VANCOUVER. MOST LIKELY IT TOOK 17 YEARS TO FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT. SO YOU CAN FAST TRACK EVERYTHING. STOP TAKING ME FOR GRANTED. YOU NEVER HAD GOOD RESULTS WITHOUT ME. I GET BLAMED AS HARSH WHEN YOU DO? GTFO. FUCKING GENENERATION SNOWFLAKE. FUCKING SNOWFLAKES.

-John (The scientist) Wayne

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13 comments

  1. Thanks for the clarification! I saw Wayne30 last year and haven’t watched it since as i was getting a lot of value out of the Playbook (watched it several times and took notes and some practice in the field before I got sick). BTW, I wasn’t trying to accuse you of anything, was just trying to get clarification as the Playbook had a lot of point stops, but I see now what you’re saying. Glad you’re cool with approach from many angles, I’m gonna have to rewatch Wayne30 as I totally forgot you teach front stops there too!

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    • I made a post but I want to clarify the Justin Wayne thing too and London Daygame. You would begin to see how scientific I am and for the first time explained to the public why Justin and London Daygame is wrong. When you see the full argument on my side. You will realized how technical John Wayne is. It might be mind blowing. It might mind fuck everyone. I always kept it a secret how technical I am. I made Todd Valentine seem like a joke. I’m not bragging, but there is a reason why I have the most testimonials. Yes all 3 Waynes have a different game for our SMV and circumstances. I’m the shortest, skinniest lowest SMV in race Wayne, so I have to make different tweaks to make it work. I have the best face of the three. Come back later to see the full article. I’m going to keep updating it. -John Wayne

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  2. I think it’s probably because I don’t have problems stopping women, so I focused more on the videos related to verbal escalation (one of my weaknesses so far, I’m sure I’ll get better with practice and coaching). There’s so much good content it’s easy to forget stuff.

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    • Doesn’t matter what you say. It really doesn’t, i’ll break down the London Daygame stop and it will make sense. The problem is you only use one front stop. What works for you doesn’t mean it works for the masses. I still need screenshots of Justin Wayne’s point stop. But when I break it down, you will understand. Now I have to give away some secrets because of your misconceptions about the game. I could of dismissed you and say I don’t need validation. But you will get a scientific field tested testimonial proven understanding of it.

      Go look at the new screenshot, Yad is there. -John Wayne

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  3. Cool, looking forward to it!

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    • i’m glad you are, but in the future if you want to disagree with me. You better have something better than your opinions as facts. I don’t need your validation. Or saying this or that theory. I live in a scientific world of results. Not in unproven theories. You better do your homework before you come after the worlds best dating coach. Or you have to be able to back it up. -John Wayne

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  4. Yes boss! 😀 I learned my lesson! Thanks for the info, but you didn’t need to give away any secrets, next time I’ll leave this for when we talk on skype!

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  5. Standing at an angle and giving open friendly body language makes complete sense to me.
    It’s less intimidating to both parties and yet I’ve only ever seen you make this point.
    I’ve never seen anyone else put this much thought into minute detail.

    It’s as you say. If someone normal with common sense when to one of these guys
    they would actually hurt their game and make themselves abnormal.
    Reinforcing bad social habits over and over again over thousands of sets is no joke.

    We need more socially smart advice that is less threatening/confrontational.
    Especially if you are of Indian origin and you have a negative stereotype of being
    disrespectful or creepy towards women.
    That acts like a multiplier on already bad advice.
    A positive stereotype might be able to get away with more confrontation stops,
    but a short physically and socially negative stereotype will only increase the creep factor.

    At least that’s what I’ve managed to understand.

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    • Yeah, its like heart surgery, one mistake you cut the vein, you lose the patient if your SMV is low. That’s how I game. Its the only thing I understand, gaming on nightmare difficulty. Welcome to my world, where there is no mercy. Its how I created the most powerful daygame system. The rest gets even more technical. Most people will be in shock. -John Wayne

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  6. In the screenshot above above the girl yad is approaching is kind of far. So you’re saying he should have walked fast past her and done your style of approach instead of running.

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  7. I’m not sure I fully understand. But I can use a metaphor. Mayweather Jr. in boxing you should see on youtube. He doesn’t get hit much. That defense. But not getting hit, he can launch his strikes more accurately from the defense to the offense. Even if you are taller, you have a genetic advantage. If you play the game like a smaller boxer like Mayweather Jr. Instead of a big guy like Muhammed Ali. You will get way more results. Double. I’d rather learn from Mayweather Jr then Muhammed Ali. Just use it every time, it just makes you efficiency much higher. Bigger guys tends to take short cuts to the game and try to muscle or SMV or sexual market value it. I hope that helps. If a bigger guy plays on easy mode, being her type. That isn’t transferable to the shorter guys. Only the game is transferable, not SMV.

    So if Mayweather Jr. The shorter boxer, more adaptive taught Muhammed Ali, then Muhammed Ali will be even a better boxer with way more skills. He will win more. But Muhammed Ali teaching Maywheather Jr. Mayweather wouldn’t get much results. Its the same with all tall white dating coaches. They always have no testimonials or very few. Their game doesn’t work for everyone. My game works for everyone. Just do it exactly like that and stop thinking so much about it.

    A lot of people got in trouble in Vancouver with the touching technique. One dating coach got kicked out of every single mall, university, got on the news. He was a guy who was your height and a big guy. But creepy as fuck. -John Wayne

    Perhaps this video can explain it better

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