Why Tinder Doesn’t Count As PUA Laycounts, Just A Body Count Since It Isn’t Pickup: How To Avoid Worshipping Dating Coaches, Spam Approaching, Going Direct

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This post is for those who will still listen to the gospel… who still has critical thinking, who isn’t manipulated, gaslighted, worshipping like a zombie but still can think…

This is what happens with people in cults.

The more you push them, the more they get pushed away.

I wasn’t going to post anymore articles, but I’ll do it on my own time.

I think cult deprogramming will be important.

In the end it is all about laid testimonials.. in daygame. Even night game counts, not tinder.

KEEP IGNORING MY LAID TESTIMONIAL YOU DUMB SHEEPS, YOU RSD ZOMBIES, YOU ASIAN CARPS. KEEP GETTING BURNT, AS YOU GO FROM ONE DAYGAME PRODUCT TO ANOTHER WHILE I HAVE THE SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS WITH ELITE 30.


I was a daygame coach trying to make people understand that Tinder doesn’t count as a PUA lay.

It’s a food app at bests, or an auction where white men wins out most of the time.

Only daygame, night game laid testimonials count towards your PUA laycount since that is pickup.

A lay is not a lay.

Only their students night game laid testimonials or daygame counts, not that they can get many for daygame.

Not Tinder .

I really wanted to stop thinking tinder counts towards your laycount.

It counts towards your body count sure, but it doesn’t count towards your PUA laycount since that isn’t even pickup.

It doesn’t count as laid testimonials either.

A lay isn’t a lay, that is a body count, but that isn’t a pickup artist lay at all.

Nor should it count as a laid testimonial since that isn’t even pickup, but a food app or auction so I wouldn’t have to keep dealing with spam approachers who’s corpus callsum doesn’t work so they rather just spam approach with 50 to 100 approaches in a day which reinforces bad habits .


I wanted to be able to get people to stop worshipping as they hear an unverified number which the RSD zombies will turn off their brain, give authority to without critical thinking.

Their minds turns off since that is a procreation switch when they throw out the word laycount

It is just like having more subscribers then automatically trusting the dating coach which is called social proof.

Even if they have very few views for their videos, a small percentage of their audience views it, which makes me speculate, with no proof of course that they might even buy Youtube subscribers.

Of course I stress I have no proof, just speculation… and I could stop getting the dumb RSD zombies, Asian carps to worship dating coaches.


The thing is I was dating coaches adding tinder to their PUA laycount when it doesn’t even count.

If they got 400 lays for example night game, their real pickup artist laycount is 400, not whatever they say without any proof.

They have evidence standing next to a women, but no actual proof of that lay.

Plus tinder laid testimonials or this food app mental bullshit, while it counts towards your body count, but for a pickup artist, it doesn’t count for your laycount.

Its not pickup, no women is being picked up.

That meant I wasn’t able to get people to stop worshipping as they hear an unverified number which the RSD zombies will turn off their brain, give authority to without critical thinking.

Their minds turns off since that is a procreation switch.

It is just like having more subscribers then automatically trusting the dating coach which is called social proof.

Even if they have very few views for their videos, a small percentage of their audience views it, which makes me speculate, with no proof of course that they might even buy Youtube subscribers.

Of course I stress I have no proof of this, just speculation…,

let alone it is getting the dumb RSD zombies, Asian carps to worship dating coaches.

To make things worse, I felt terrible because these dumb RSD zombies, Asian carps, dumb sheeps are worshipping so hard, they listen to advice which wouldn’t get them laid.

Then started to ignore all my laid testimonials during Covid 19 now, also is ignoring Elite 30 which is the cure, not the long drawn out treatments since lots of these courses released during Covid 19 doesn’t actually have many or any laid testimonials for it.

It doesn’t matter the dumb RSD sheeps will worship so hard, then not get laid, then take their bootcamps.

Fleecing the sheeps of their wool or money.

I felt even worse about the situation because this makes a mockery out of my student results.

The guys who aren’t corpus callosom can’t do 3 steps in a row like my social skills flow drill so they spam approach, worship since that corpus callosom lowers their self esteem, makes them delusional.

Just say laycount this, their brains turns off like a light switch then they worship.

I felt like I have the solution to all their daygame problems…

Yet even if some of these zombies tries to follow it.

I have found asking these dumb Asian Carps, RSD zombies, if they went through Elite 30, none of them made it past day 2.

Nor did they practiced in the mirror since they are lazy skilless, low functioning people where spam aproaching is easier, even if it takes more energy.

But they worship laycounts, even if Tinder laycounts doesn’t count as laycounts, just body count, but not a laycount from pickup.

It favors the status maxers, even mostly white guys too.


The problem was that people completely ignore Elite 30. Which is the solution, the cure.

It not only is proven to work, but they feel so full of shit using other peoples stuff not getting laid for daygame, then looking at me with their heads down in shame completely ghosting me.

Maybe they know they are dumb sheeps without critical thinking, low functioning, also they don’t like how my student gets laid so much, which shows they are onmicunts, with corpus callosom problems who needs to be called out for their mental bullshit.

They are slow, other dating coaches manipulates them fleecing the sheeps talking down to you as if you were dumb, trying not to offend you.

Which meant its like the guy inventing the cure for cancer, nobody wants him to speak, or let people know.

The treatment makes way more money.

The world is motivated by greed.

You are trying to save the world, but instead, they are getting gaslighted with stupid Tinder laycounts or testimonials which isn’t even a thing. Its not a pickup artist laycount, but a body count from a stupid food app auction, which stopped by ability to get people to get Elite 30, even if the course never expires, since that is real social skills, social calibrations.

It works, their stuff isn’t social skills since I teach a social skill flow drill that is 3 steps over and over which is hard for autistic fucks.

They can do 2 steps due to their corpus callosom, but will overheat if they do the third step.

So they love to spam approach, worship, be delusional, low self esteem.

Then, as if by chance, something amazing happened…


That’s when I am educating people that Tinder no longer counts as PUA laycounts, just body counts which can’t be used for testimonials since it isn’t pickup,

also, its a food app, auction where white people benefits the most since that is their Tinder mental bullshit testimonials is mostly white, a few blacks, a few ethnics, a token Asian.

I was surprised their guarantee that they will get laid didn’t work.

I’m sure a lot of impressionable Asian carps took that offer, then didn’t get any results.

I speculate they got their money back.

Then now it is changed to 8 week 8 dates?

I mean for me, its like 8 weeks for my students, 3 lays, or more in daygame… lol.

I mean set the bar low.

Some dating coaches doesn’t even have laid testimonials or so very few for daygame which shows how dumb the sheeps really are,

just say laycounts this, laycounts that, they submit to authority even without proof or critical thinking…

Standing next to a women is evidence!

It was now crystal clear to me how to educate them that only daygame, night game counts as a laycount even if I don’t go to night clubs, I am purely using daygame.

I don’t use Tinder, that doesn’t count towards your laycount, because I saw they don’t have a lot of pickup laid testimonials, since their students tinder lays which favors white guys doesn’t count.

Or it favors status maxing, value, not necessarily skills..

I also learned that a lay isn’t a lay, if you use seeking stupidity then say a lay is a lay, that isn’t one.

Even if that was a lead gen.

Pickup is harder.

Tinder is the same way too, as they said, that it felt like they were cheating, which they are… but they somehow rationalized that it was a PUA laycount?

Maybe that is good for business, but that is about as irrelevent as a white guy going to Thailand counting those as laycounts.

Its status maxing to the max, you need to just focus on daygame, night game laid testimonials, not tinder.

Or ignore their tinder laycount, ask how many daygame, night game laid lays, which is only a fraction of that.

I mean some of you Asian carps are so low value, they come to my coaching since they can’t even get matches on Tinder, but they just ignore my advice spam approaching with corpus callosum problems with their brain being delusional, low functioning instead.

As a result I educated people that only their daygame, night game laycounts actually counts for their pickup artist laycount.

That tinder counts towards their body count, but that is seperate from pickup which requires you to pickup, which require skills.

By skills I don’t mean 100 pull infields where there is no proof anything happened in the bedroom with video.

That is evidence, not proof beyond a shadow of a doubt..

After I did that, I started to make a Youtube live educating people of this, when I should of been posting non stop laid testimonials they are dismissing or ignoring Elite 30 the solution.

Suddenly, I was able to slowly get the stupid RSD zombies to open up their mind over time when they don’t get laid from other peoples daygame course.

The longer they don’t get laid, spam approaching, not levelling up their social skills the more I can laugh at how they are zombies who worships.

That’s when I realized that the secret to make people understand that Tinder doesn’t count as a PUA lay.

Its a food app at bests, or an auction where white men wins out most of the time.

Only daygame, night game laid testimonials count towards your PUA laycount since that is pickup.

A lay is not a lay. Ummm not really…

Only their students night game laid testimonials or daygame counts, not that they can get many for daygame.

Not Tinder was that people have been using tinder to boost their laycount, but it doesn’t count as PUA laycount.

It isn’t even pickup, it shouldn’t be counted.

I mean normal social white people gets matches, lays just for being white, so why would that count as a laycount?

not just some bodycount which isn’t even related to game….

I mean at least even night game which doesn’t require social skills is pickup, which requires some level of skills.

Daygame requires more skillls that is why they don’t have many daygame laid testimonials but the dumb zombies doesn’t care, since their brain is upside down chasing dreams.


My plan was to start laughing at how dumb the sheeps gets fleeced, over and over their entire life when I offer a perfect solution with Elite 30

…which works well if you actually practice in the mirror first then go out to reduce the chance of spam approaching catching omicron. My students gets laid in so few approaches it is the solution.

So I started educate people that they are stupid sheeps, no critical thinking, turns off their brain, accepting the wrong neuropathways. But we didn’t stop there.

I then educated people that I eliminated so many unnecessary steps in my game like going direct, validation, romance, funnels, since I don’t need it to get my students laid.

After that, I educated you, that you won’t get laid since you are lazy zombies with a corpus callosom problem. So you are too lazy so you are spam approaching without skills reinforcing bad habits.

You don’t have status so you are going to get destroyed out there spam approaching, catching omicunts which is well deserved..

But there was still a problem…


The zombies are ghosting me, since they don’t know any better that I have seen so many daygame courses released, the people had no laid testimonials for daygame for their courses.

But somehow I do, my courses keeps working if they use it properly which is an automatic lay.

If they are lazy, just spam approach, tweak their mental bullshit bad habits, they will get destroyed during delta, onmicunts.

They are so gaslighted, it really shows that they literally turn into zombies, lose all self control when the word laycounts is thrown around. To the point where they can ignore the lack of laid testimonials.

Then they get funnelled into bootcamps. Some gets results, some has almost no laid testimonials or one, some has zero.

No one cares about the cure since my business is built on getting you laid, then you make a video testimonial, then more students joins.

Now since these zombies are so low functioning, so lazy, they no longer care about building skills.

They just want to spam approach, take massive action, pump their state, not get laid

I ended up getting so frustrated that we decided to just wait until they all get burnt, then take their bootcamps, then not get results.

Then I laugh at the zombies as they have to eventually see non stop laid testimonials again after I post more advice videos.

I chose to call it “Tinder doesn’t count as laid testimonials or laycount. Just body count since it is not pickup”.

I thought if we could create something that would make it possible to for the dumb RSD zombies to stop acting like zombies when they run at people shutting off their brain, or in this case worship, spam approach, get no results then look for the next daygame course to get burnt with, we’d be really happy.

After I still post laid testimonials for Elite 30, it wouldn’t stop since my course is real social skills from real naturals I learned from. Real social calibrations, which I invented.

After the advice videos I only posted 9 testimonials for Youtube LIve.

I’ll post 10 more new ones next time., I created the concept, Tinder doesn’t count as laid testimonials or laycount. Just body count since it is not pickup.

I can now hopefully get the dumb sheeps to focus on Elite 30 again, not spam approach after they get burnt so badly to the point of John Elite saying… I told you so.

You will say oh you were right all along.

I then started to let other daygamers use Tinder doesn’t count as laid testimonials or laycount.

Just body count since it is not pickup.

As a result of all this we were able to achieve the following:

my students are getting laid non stop, but you want to dismiss it

You were given the solution, but you refuse to take the cure.

I would post so many laid testimonials afterwards when I am done with the advice videos then you will understand your failure then.

After creating Tinder doesn’t count as laid testimonials or laycount. Just body count since it is not pickup, I was not only able to get people to realize, what is tinder lays anyways? bodycount?

Sure, but laycount as a pickup artist? hell no.

Its not even pickup.

I’ve also been able to stop stop people from worshipping as much.

They still worship but after this they will know I was right after they all get burnt over time.

They will come back here and follow my advice, because we can now get nearly 500 laid/pull testimonials.

And in the end, all of this means I’m now able to get even more students laid for daygame, while their hero coach only has worthless opinions. I mean if a dating coach has less than 6 laid testimonials for daygame, they have a worthless opinion.

-John Elite

P.S, this is not a cult, but cult deprogramming… I know how Moses must of felt when others kept worshipping idols.

UPDATE, I ENJOY HAVING MORE FREE TIME SINCE THE BLOG POST WAS TAKING SO MUCH TIME WHILE PEOPLE READS IT, BUT THEIR MINDS ARE ELSEWHERE. IF YOU DON’T GET RESULTS ELSEWHERE, SPAM APPROACH THEN GET BURNT, THEN COME BACK AFTERWARDS IN A MONTH OR TWO. THEN REPENT, SAYING YOU SHOULD OF LISTENED TO ME. THEN DO THINGS PROPERLY, ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE ELITE 30 DAY CHALLENGE.

I still need to build the second site, concept area, it gives me some more time to refocus on other areas.

You can always come back in the future, if you got no results, admit you have been fleeced, then do Elite 30 properly this time….

All those testimonials they weren’t lazy, they actually did the 30 day challenge.

Guys like this would even make it past day 2, without spam approaching tweaking their bullshit habits without rebuilding…

What not to do…

Don’t be like him… where you dismiss Elite 30, sheeps dismiss…

I am, but i’m taking too much action

I need to take a step back, to think,

more of the same non stop blog post if people takes it for granted…

PLUS THE STOCK MARKET CRASHED, BILLIONAIRES LOST A TON OF MONEY, EXCEPT WARREN BUFFET…

Bitcoin already crashed, ETH too…

Also, Bidflation is getting worst…

So I have to adapt my marketing style like it is the great depression or something.

I need some time to think.

I’ll write when I feel like it.

(VIDEO TESTIMONIAL) Want To Get Laid Without Catching Omicron? Taiwanese Student 3 Lays, 1 Fuck Buddy Helps Daygamers Just Like You Do It Fast Using ELITE 30: FROM HARDCASE TO HERO

DUDE, FINALLY A NEW VIDEO, GO WATCH IT ASAP. TAIWANESE STUDENT 3 LAYS, 1 FUCK BUDDY DURING OMICRON. THIS SHOWS YOU THAT IT CAN BE DONE… I PLAY 2 OF HIS VIDEO TESTIMONIALS IN A ROW, WITH THE UPDATE, YOU CAN FINALLY HEAR IT HERE

Hi my name is John Elite and did you know that spam approaching doesn’t level up your social skills?

I know it sounds crazy because we’re so used to hearing about mass volume automatically levels up your social skills, and while that is important, I’m going to share three misunderstandings with you today that are going to revolutionize the way you understand of how to get laid without catching Omicron.

So what is solution to the problem??

It’s the corpus callosum. The middle part that connects the left and right brain together

He invested in Elite 30

So the first misunderstanding is.

That you need to spend 21 days in a row practicing in the mirror, so you do 80% rehearsal in the mirror 20% approaches so you won’t catch Onicron, by turning off your brain so you can be fully resilient, not half resilient, since it takes 21 days for your brain to catch up and level up the skills even if you can’t do 3 steps in a row.

This is important because Since you can’t do 3 steps for the social skills flow drill, you have to keep practicing for 3 weeks, 21 days until your neuropathways catch up.

By spam approaching, you are reinforcing 21 days of bad habits, unable to change it, getting omicron, reinforcing bad habits due to inability to do 3 steps!

The second misunderstanding is they have more status than you. They are farmers. All their advice about approaching more to socialize won’t level up your social skills. Or hanging out with women in a party wouldn’t work. You don’t have their Instagram like they d.

The main thing to understand here is that their Instagram is the crutch or conversion mechanism that gives them compliance.

You don’t have a cool lifestyle, or high-status job, or any other 3rd world money status advantages, or exotic advantage or perceived natural status.

This means it is like farming for the party location, status, Instagram is the tranquilizer dart that brings the women or animals into the farm. you are an introverted hunter with no status advantages like my students.

Since my students goes for same day lays, with no intention of hanging out with women living with your parents.

The third misunderstanding is Don’t be an omicunt lacking resilience. Turn of your brain. You can say to yourself logically that it is fucked up. Then emotionally shut down and fucking do it anyways.

During delta, the RSD zombie students were still able to mass approach. Now they can’t since their half resilience, with no GRIT isn’t enough.

Delta they had no right instinct to do it my way.

Now during Onicron, they can’t even have enough resilience to approach.

This is key because if you rehearsed like 50 reps a day in front of the mirror, by shutting off your brain but doing the reps to bypass the corpus callosum, you would be able to not catch omicron, but get laid quickly .

You need to level up mirror like a ninja with resilience, go out there closing ASAP on a mission.

Now, I know what you’re thinking.

It’s omicron, you will catch it, you are scared. I get it, with other daygame courses out there, if you have no lifestyle no status maxing socializing you will catch it.

Well the tricky thing is that my daygame course gets you laid so fast if you stop being a lazy Omicunt, turn off your brain.

Practice 50 reps correctly a day, then make a few approaches out there.

Your odds of catching it are lowered dramatically. If you did it my way for once!

And so I’ve designed it this Mental Trauma Relief Program you can get over your mental trauma so you can focus, get resilience, approach again.

And I, as a daygame coach with nearly 500 laid/pull testimonials in the world who has a very powerful brain if you didn’t notice by now,

what I do is I am able to use the mental filter to solve super problems the world can’t solve yet.

So you can fix your super problems once and for all if you follow through with my training. .

So what I’ve done is I’ve created the Mental Trauma Relief Program.

If you click the link, you can click this button below.

I also have Elite 30: From Hardcase To Hero.

Those 3 lays for this student came from that course.

My daygame course is proven to work, every variant.

Yet their daygame courses doesn’t even work or get laid testimonials. So you blame yourself since you were worshipping, then you waste money on their bootcamps.

They were no differrent than other psychologist fleecing the sheep.

In this case they just do that in the PUA industry instead with false authority as they status max, ,

but today I’m talking about Elite 30: From Hardcase To Hero, which is amazing.

I’m John Elite and I can’t wait to see you on the inside.

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-John Elite

P.S, if you are a ADHD lazy emotional omicunt, then practice in the mirror, level up, then when you are skilled, then go out there, reducing your chances greatly of catching onmicron. You will catch it spam approaching

UPDATE THERE SEEM TO BE SOME OBJECTIONS… LET ME ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS….

  1. Where are you hero coaches laid testimonials for daygame courses? How come it doesn’t exist?
  2. Is it because of status maxing? that their courses doesn’t work?
  3. Do you think Elite 30 is old hat now? due to FOMO, fear of missing out of new stuff? But if those statistically didn’t work, are you aware Elite 30 is the acutal bible of natural game? That is how real naturals are like, they taught me but did you know I just rebranded this for hardcases?
  4. Do you think they have real social skills or are they just status maxing?
  5. If you don’t have the same status, percieved natural status, or status displayed on your instagram for high status job, high status lifestyle, all that stuff, how would you even have the same results?
  6. Are you a sheep? If you got no results? is bootcamp your first option in your tiny little mind that doesn’t have a working corpus callosom? where you can’t do 3 steps?
  7. Are you lazy? an onicunt?
  8. Why do you get burnt over and over again? Is it possible you are delusional? Slow? Gaslighted with half truth bullshit info for daygame?
  9. You been dick riding dating coaches for nearly a decade now, was it fun? Getting no results?
  10. Isn’t there a better way? If this taiwanese student got laid so quickly, now is up to 3 lays, 1 fuck buddy?
  11. Did he even use status maxing, or any of my students?
  12. Are you poor due to food prices? inflation? Is it due to your corpus callosum? Laziness? Unskilled behavior? Wouldn’t you like some skills now?
  13. Its it okay to ignore brilliance, the right algorithms? when it can be used to save the entire fucking world, or at least 80% of the students pulled, 70% got laid in daygame before? Even if I accept everyone including hardcases, impossible cases, unteachable cases? not just normal cases?
  14. Are you just such a zombie, you have no critical thinking?
  15. Or I just want a month or something when people gets burnt from other daygame courses, no results, then they come back smiling at me compimenting how great the student results are. It is how the industry works…. the treatment, not the cure…

THAT IS MY REBUKE, JUST KEEP IGNORING THE TESTIMONIALS TREATING THEM LIKE ADS OR SOMETHING PEOPLE IGNORES… YOU WOULD NEVER SEE ENDLESS STUDENT RESULTS IN DAYGAME LIKE MY STUDENTS… YOU DESERVE TO FAIL….

-John Elite

UPDATE, A LOT OF YOU AREN’T EVEN LOOKING AT THE ELITE 30 SALES LETTER. I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR OBJECTION IS, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE CUNTS… I WILL NOT POST AS MUCH, SINCE YOU DON’T DESERVE IT. FUCK YOU, DUMB SHEEP, STUPID ZOMBIE… HAVE FUN FAILING SPAM APPROACHING

IF YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT GETTING LAID, JUST WORSHIPPING, TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WON’T EVEN LOOK AT MY SALES LETTER. I’M OFFERING THE SOLUTION, NOT THE LONG DRAWN OUT TREATMENT. YES IT COST LESS, BUT IT WORKS, IT IS PROVEN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN…. WHICH YOU STOPPED CARING ABOUT. THIS IS MY PROTEST TO YOUR STUPID MENTAL BULLSHIT….

MAYBE YOU HAVEN’T BEEN BURNT ENOUGH NOT GETTING LAID, WHEN YOU DID, THEN YOU WILL COME BACK FOR REPAIR WORK.

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