IF YOU ARE CURIOUS HOW THE REDDIT SMEAR CAMPAIGN WAS WRITTEN AND ITS STRUCTURE KNOWING ITS FAKE. 1. FALSE ACCUSATIONS 2. GUILT TRIP 3. PAIN POINTS 4. CIRCULAR ARGUEMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE NARCISSISTIC WORD SALAD.
So, if you decide to Google my name, you might stumble upon a Reddit “review” or warning about John Elite… posted by Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) before you even check out my site, John Elite.
But here’s the thing, it’s not really a review.
Ivan Stratienco hasn’t actually taken the full course…
he just dabbled with the Elite Access but skipped the whole Elite Bundle Resurrections.
What’s going on here?
It’s kind of a sneaky tactic, pre-suasion, if you will.
Amazing Ivan is trying to turn you off before you even get the chance to meet me.
It feels like he’s aiming to sway 777,000 people on Reddit, hoping to stop others from listening to me or paying for my coaching.
Honestly, I’d encourage you to watch the video all the way through.
It’s got some screenshot evidence that really lays it all out about Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) and the real story behind the Reddit smear campaign.
I’m speeding through this so you can get the info quickly!
“A smear campaign is a planned effort to discredit a person or group and tarnish their reputation.” Psychology Today
“Smear campaigns involve manipulation… often a behavior of malignant narcissists and those with NPD or antisocial personality disorder.” (patterns, not diagnoses) Psychology Today
“Those recruited by the abuser become an entourage known as ‘flying monkeys.’” Psychology Today
IF YOU ARE CURIOUS HOW THE REDDIT SMEAR CAMPAIGN WAS WRITTEN AND ITS STRUCTURE KNOWING ITS FAKE. 1. FALSE ACCUSATIONS 2. GUILT TRIP 3. PAIN POINTS 4. CIRCULAR ARGUEMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE NARCISSISTIC WORD SALAD.
1) Admission + Rage Quit = Hypocrisy
IF YOU ARE CURIOUS HOW THE REDDIT SMEAR CAMPAIGN WAS WRITTEN AND ITS STRUCTURE KNOWING ITS FAKE. 1. FALSE ACCUSATIONS 2. GUILT TRIP 3. PAIN POINTS 4. CIRCULAR ARGUEMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE NARCISSISTIC WORD SALAD.
So, Ivan Stratienco messaged me saying, “Your system obviously can work very well.”
But then, just 14 days later, Ivan Stratienco rage-quit.
Funny enough, that was the same day another student whos Chinese was boasting about 15 lays, 5 models, 2 actresses, and even marriage then became a father to a daughter.
Ivan called himself “thin-skinned.”
-But online? Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) switches it up: “didn’t get laid, didn’t pull.” Honestly, how can you rage-quit after just two weeks and then say the system failed?
That feels like hypocrisy to me.
Plus, Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) never even checked out the digital courses in the Elite Bundle Resurrections.
He only went through the Elite Access, as I had mentioned in the screenshot since I hadn’t let him start that yet. So, really, how can Ivan Stratienco give a fair review that doesn’t come off as just a hit piece?
2) Initial Contact = Proof of Emotional Blindness
So, Amazing Ivan, or Ivan MIchaels starts off saying, “I feel like I’m a hard case… depressed… ghosted… ignored.” Right?
But then, in a later Reddit rant, heflips the script, claiming he wasn’t really depressed at all.
He even throws around terms like “gaslit” and “labeled.” Talk about a contradiction!
Honestly, when someone like Ivan Stratienco calls themselves a “hard case” but then refuses to take any responsibility or even own their words, it’s a bit of a red flag.
In my experience, that’s usually a sign they’re not really coachable.
It follows a pattern I’d describe as unteachable, you know, that dismissive, narcissistic vibe with a serious lack of self-awareness.
It’s frustrating, to say the least.
3) Voice Playback = Emotional Disconnect
So, when I played it back forAmazing Ivan, I mentioned that his tone felt pretty flat.
And, get this, Ivan said, “I tried to mimic Joe Rogan… guess not.”
Like, he totally admitted it right there! But the wild part? Ivan Stratienco didn’t even realize it himself.
Honestly, to me, that kind of feels like emotional blindness.
It’s like Ivan Stratienco is just not in tune with how he sounds or even aware of his own slip-ups.
Later on, Ivan turned it around and called it “gaslighting,” but come on, the proof is there, he was the one who said it first!
4) Progress & Quit = Not Enough to Change Habits
So, here’s the deal: Amazing Ivan recorded 12 drills and 17 approaches over a span of 14 days.
I’ve got the chart right here…lots of gaps and some missed check-ins from Ivan Stratienco.
And get this, Ivan even said, “Why do I have to check in every day?”
Honestly, I think habits don’t just magically change with a hit-or-miss effort.
When you throw in the towel before you’ve even laid a solid foundation, it’s not really a sign of failure.
It’s more like a way for Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) to dodge the hard work. You know what I mean?
5) NDA + $400 Goodwill = Breach Without Remorse
So, Ivan Stratienco went ahead and signed a non-disparagement NDA, right? Took the $400 goodwill payment, too. But then, what did Ivan do? He just ignored the whole thing and started smearing anyway.
After that, Ivan Stratienco posted some statements that honestly seem to contradict that agreement.
I can’t really know what Amazing Ivan was thinking, but I just wanted to point out that there’s a clear inconsistency here.
6) Scope of Access = Not a Full Program Review
So, here’s the thing: Amazing Ivan never actually got into the Elite Bundle Resurrections, and he didn’t even touch the digital courses that come with it.
His whole experience was just with Elite Access.
Honestly, I think calling that a review of my entire system is pretty misleading on Ivan Stratienco’s part.
Now, let’s talk about the supplements.
Ivan Stratienco claims they’re “irresponsible prescriptions.”
But that’s totally off base. I don’t prescribe anything!
These are just over-the-counter options you can grab on Amazon.
They’re optional, nothing more. Over-the-counter stuff isn’t the same as a prescription.
Funny enough, Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) didn’t even use the supplements.
He accidentally ordered them twice!
Both orders just sat there unopened.
When I talked to Ivan on the phone, he mentioned, “I’d rather get everything from food… I’m worried about side effects,” and, by the way, he’s a vegetarian.
Later, Ivan Stratienco twisted this around to say it’s “death by supplements.”
But here’s the catch: the situation he pointed to involved a lung clot, not a stroke.
I mean, a stroke is all about the brain, right? Totally different thing!
And talk about hypocrisy! IAmazing Ivan has a credit in a vegetarian-themed movie called “Meatless BBQ” from 2018, yet here he is bashing supplements he never even tried.
So, let’s break it down: Ivan Stratienco is anti-supplement, has never used them, and is pushing a misrepresented medical claim. Sounds more like an outrage narrative than any solid evidence to me.
8) Bans: The Truth
So, here’s the deal: the claim that he was “stuck in limbo with weeks of bans and no coaching”? Honestly, that’s just not true.
He only had a 3-day accountability ban, which is actually pretty lenient compared to what others might face.
And let me tell you, I hardly ever ban students. Like, maybe one indefinite ban a year, if that. Most of the time, the bans we do have are pretty short…
usually just 1 to 2 weeks, tops.
When they come back, they’re usually more focused and ready to go, not just sitting around feeling lost.
In fact, most students don’t get banned at all. Seriously, most of them don’t struggle with attention or avoidance issues, so they keep making progress without any hiccups.
-It’s kind of wild how a simple, short reset got twisted into this whole narrative about “permanent bans.”
IF YOU ARE CURIOUS HOW THE REDDIT SMEAR CAMPAIGN WAS WRITTEN AND ITS STRUCTURE KNOWING ITS FAKE. 1. FALSE ACCUSATIONS 2. GUILT TRIP 3. PAIN POINTS 4. CIRCULAR ARGUEMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE NARCISSISTIC WORD SALAD.
9) Testimonials: Straight Numbers
My other student 100 lays, counts as one instance, 1 to the number. Otherwise won’t the laid testimonials be 767 by now? Not 667?
So, here’s the deal: the claim from Amazing Ivan or Ivan Micheals that he was “stuck in limbo with weeks of bans and no coaching”? Honestly, that’s just not true.
Ivan Stratienco only had a 3-day accountability ban, which is actually pretty lenient compared to what others might face.
And let me tell you, I hardly ever ban students. Like, maybe one indefinite ban a year, if that. Most of the time, the bans we do have are pretty short…
usually just 1 to 2 weeks, tops. When they come back, they’re usually more focused and ready to go, not just sitting around feeling lost.
In fact, most students don’t get banned at all.
Seriously, most of them don’t struggle with attention or avoidance issues, so they keep making progress without any hiccups.
– It’s kind of wild how a simple, short reset for Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) got twisted into this whole narrative about “permanent bans.” overcounting and “a few students” driving totals; that’s inaccurate.
Why this happens (my view)
Quote (Psychology Today, “word salad”):
“…a slang term for a type of narcissistic speech that is purposefully confusing. Listeners find ‘narcissistic word salad’ frustrating because the speaker uses circular reasoning, outright lies, denial, or mischaracterizations of past events to avoid being wrong or taking responsibility.”
In my opinion, that’s what you’re seeing here… false-sounding claims, guilt trips, pain-point jabs, and circular arguments… designed to confuse, not to find truth.
Quote (Psychology Today, smear campaigns):
“People who run smear campaigns feel wronged and seek to punish. They paint the victim as the abuser, recruit allies to push the narrative, and aim to control the story and rewrite history. It’s character assassination meant to damage reputation and ‘win’.”
IF YOU ARE CURIOUS HOW THE REDDIT SMEAR CAMPAIGN WAS WRITTEN AND ITS STRUCTURE KNOWING ITS FAKE. 1. FALSE ACCUSATIONS 2. GUILT TRIP 3. PAIN POINTS 4. CIRCULAR ARGUEMENT. THIS IS CALLED THE NARCISSISTIC WORD SALAD.
-John Elite (Best Daygame Coach In The World)
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