Watch video called what is a sociopathic smear camaign, turning people off
What Happened on Reddit
A Reddit thread naming me, started by Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician), got removed.
Right after, the same claims reappeared from Ivan Stratienco using an alternate account (the alt had already commented in the first thread).
Thatโs a repost after removal by Ivan Stratienco. Below are the receipts so you can judge by evidence, not drama.
โA smear campaign is a planned effort to discredit a person or group, to undermine their credibility, and tarnish their reputation.โ – Psychology Today
Todayโs sequence
- The first Reddit thread naming me, started by Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician), was locked/removed.
- Soon after, a new thread appeared from the same actor, Ivan Stratienco… using an alt account that had already commented in the first thread.
- The new thread repeats the same claims and unique details as the removed post.
Receipts:
- Screenshot A: First thread removed, The alt accountโs comment in the first thread

- Screenshot C: New thread by the same alt 3PM August 24th, pacific time, repeating the same claims

Note: All screenshots should be full-page, with post titles/usernames visible, and any personal info redacted.
AUGUST 25TH, HE UPDATED HIS HITPIECE MATCHING THE ORIGINAL POST FROM A DIFFERENT ALT, THIS IS THE SAME PERSON.

Pattern before today (why this matters)
- These same claims have been made before by Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician) and Iโve already published a receipts page that counters them with screenshots and documents.
- The poster, Ivan Stratienco, is also under an NDA and has been sent a cease-and-desist (details below). Reposting after removal ignores both moderation and agreements.
Receipts:
- Evidence Collage / Debunk page

- NDA acknowledgment (redacted)

- Cease-and-desist sent (redacted)
To: Ivan Stratienco
Re: Cease and Desist Demand for Defamation, Harassment, Libel, and Slander
Dear Ivan Stratienco,
We represent AKA John Elite (โOur Clientโ).
It has come to our attention that you have engaged in a coordinated campaign of defamatory statements, harassment, and unauthorized use of Our Clientโs likeness across various online platforms, including but not limited to the creation and use of multiple alternate accounts.
This conduct includes spreading false allegations, malicious attacks, and repeated attempts to harm Our Clientโs personal and professional reputation.
Such conduct constitutes defamation, harassment, and a violation of Our Clientโs rights to privacy and publicity under applicable laws, including but not limited to New York Civil Rights Law ยงยง 50 and 51.
Accordingly, we hereby demand that you:
- Accordingly, we hereby demand that you immediately:
- CEASE AND DESIST from publishing, republishing, editing, updating, amplifying, or causing others to publish or amplify any false, misleading, or defamatory statements about Our Client, whether directly or through third parties.
- CEASE any further bad-faith reporting, flagging, or attempts to restrict, demonetize, or remove Our Clientโs content, channels, or accounts on any platform, including any coordinated โbrigading,โ mass-reporting, or similar abuse of moderation tools.
- REFRAIN from using, creating, or operating alternate, alias, pseudonymous, or โsock-puppetโ accounts to evade moderation or to continue any of the foregoing conduct, including editing or re-posting attacks via such accounts.
- REMOVE or cause the removal of all false or defamatory statements about Our Client that you control (including posts, comments, reviews, videos, mirrors, and re-uploads), and take reasonable steps to request removal from any third-party hosts you directly used to disseminate such content.
- CONFIRM IN WRITING whether you have submitted any takedown/flagging requests concerning Our Client; if any were submitted, confirm they have been withdrawn, and agree not to submit future reports absent a good-faith basis consistent with platform terms and applicable law.
- PRESERVE ALL EVIDENCE relevant to these matters, including but not limited to drafts, posts, messages, emails, DMs, reviews, account logs, IP logs, platform notices, reporting histories, edit histories, and communications with any third party concerning the publications, reporting, or amplification at issue. This is a litigation hold; do not alter, conceal, or destroy any such materials.
- REFRAIN FROM CONTACTING Our Clientโs students, customers, prospective customers, vendors, or partners for the purpose of disparagement, interference, or inducing breach.
- PROVIDE WRITTEN ASSURANCE of your full compliance with the above within seven (7) days of the date of this letter.
Failure to comply with this demand will leave Our Client with no alternative but to pursue all available legal remedies, including but not limited to initiating a defamation lawsuit and seeking injunctive relief and monetary damages. We reserve the right to disclose your identity upon commencement of such legal action.
This letter is sent without prejudice to Our Clientโs rights and claims, all of which are expressly reserved.
Govern yourself accordingly.
Sincerely,
[Legal Counsel for John Elite]
tโs now been over 7 days since Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician) was sent a formal cease and desist letter.
He has ignored the legal demand and continues to repost the same false claims, violating both the NDA and the cease and desist notice.
I don’t think Ivan cares because he might of been involved in a lot of court battles in the past.
How to read the collage (by position):
Top-left: Fatherhood + quit timing

A Chinese student became a father (proof shown).
Within 2 weeks, Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan) rage-quit when he was given news the other student became a father.
In chat, Ivan admits: โyour system can work very well.โ
At that time, Ivan Stratienco only had Elite Access (10โ15 min/day WhatsApp).
Digital course access was later revoked under an NDA, and I told Ivan not to see the other courses yet before Elite Access.
So Ivan did not complete Elite 30, Elite Playbook, or attend the full Skype sequence.
Heโs reviewing Elite Access coaching, not the coursesโwhich has worked for so many of my students this year.
Upper-left center: Supplement narrative & motive

Ivan Stratienco, the magician, publicly attacks me for suggesting optional, over-the-counter (non-prescription) supplements to students, claiming โside-effects in high doses,โ and saying Iโm wrong to suggest them.
These are not prescriptionsโฆ.
you can get them over the counter and on Amazon.
Ivanโs own IMDb page shows โMeatless BBQ.โ
He told me heโs food-onlyโฆ devout vegan and had never used the OTC items he criticized.
In other words, the false narrative crusade isnโt about evidence, itโs ideology. Thatโs the motive.
Middle-left: $400 payment context

Ivan Stratienco received $400 as a goodwill payment during dispute resolution.
This was not a refund of a course.
Bottom-left: NDA scope

Screenshot of the signed NDAโฆ non-disparagement, non-disclosure agreement: Ivan Stratienco agreed not to attack me on forums or post hit-pieces. The day he quit.
In exchange, I agreed not to publish a video naming Ivan Stratienco (the title appears in the screenshot).
He posted anyway.
Top-middle / Top-right: Audio feedback

Ivan Stratienco says he canโt hear issues in his own audio.
In the screenshot, I was describing correctable traits (monotone, lethargy) so he could fix them.
Iโm not diagnosing anything but describing.
If Ivan Stratienco canโt hear those traits, it explains why he also says he couldnโt โhearโ sounding depressed as he claimed he wasnโt.
His audio infields and homework was played on Youtube Live sounding extremely depressed, lethargic and a hint of anger, which canโt be posted in a collage.
Far-right: Self-report vs. later claims

Earlier messages show Ivan Stratienco self-described being depressed and stuck for years with little result.
Later, Ivan claims he โwasnโt depressedโ and that I โinvented it gaslighting him.โ
The screenshots contradict that.
Bottom-wide: Effort vs. expectation

12 drills, 17 approaches infield audio in 14 days, then quitting.
Ivan Stratienco claims โno pull, no lay.โ
With that little volume and passing no completed drills habit, you canโt judge outcomesโฆ
especially when Ivan dismissed the work that changes habits.
He created a narrative that my system didnโt work, but he did say it can work very well in the first screenshot.
TL;DR:
- Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician) admits my system can work, but quit after 2 weeks.
- Ideology (vegan/anti-supplement) drove his public attacks.
- Ivan took goodwill money, signed an NDA, then posted a hit-piece anyway.
- Screenshots show Ivanโs own words about being depressed; later denials donโt match the record.
- Minimal effort + early quit โ fair review of courses he didnโt have.
For new visitors
You donโt know me yet. Thatโs fair. Please judge by receipts and results:
- Student receipts / testimonials https://johnelite.com/2022/03/16/2024testimonials/
- Coaching/course overview https://johnelite.com/2020/12/29/elite-bundle-2/
- Contact support https://johnelite.com/contact/
This page is not about attacking anyone. Itโs here so reasonable people can verify facts quickly.
Psychology Today explains that smear campaigns are retaliatory efforts to control a narrative: the attacker spreads false or exaggerated claims (and sometimes private truths) to โpoison the well,โ recruits allies (โflying monkeysโ), and aims to make the target look irrational. The impact is confusion, anxiety, isolation, and professional harm. Recommended responses: donโt retaliate, stick to verifiable facts, disengage from the instigator, focus on your health/support network, and keep moving forward.
Source: Smear Campaigns and How to Overcome Them (Psychology Today). https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/speaking-in-tongues/202412/smear-campaigns-and-how-to-overcome-them?msockid=19d8385b8ae56b81249b2c118b5f6af8
How to read the receipts (30 seconds)
- Look at the first thread removal (A).
- See the alt comment in that first thread (B).
- See the new thread posted by the same alt, repeating the same claims (C).
- Cross-check against my evidence/debunk page and documents (NDA + C&D).
Legal & privacy notes
This page shares verifiable screenshots and redacted documents for fairness, no medical advice, no personal data beyond whatโs visible in public posts.
Where I describe motives, I mark them as inference from observable behavior (same claims, same alt, repost after removal).
I reserve all rights to enforce existing agreements.
CONCLUSION
Final word
If the claims from Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan, magician) made sense, Iโd address them point-by-point.
Instead, they misstate what I teach and what actually happened… a classic straw-man pattern. Based on the record (receipts below):
Ivan Stratienco acknowledged โyour system can work very well,โ then quit after ~14 days with low drill/approach volume.
Allegations from Ivan Stratienco appeared after signing an NDA with a non-disparagement clause; when one Reddit thread was removed, a new thread repeated the same claims from Ivan Stratienco using an alternate account.
When shown contradictions, there was no retraction from Ivan Stratienco, just repetition.
For new readers: this aligns with what Psychology Today describes as a smear pattern, outrage-driven posts that aim to poison the well rather than engage facts.
Please review the timeline and screenshots and decide for yourself.
Iโm not here to trade insults with Ivan Stratienco or anyone else; Iโm here to coach and deliver results.
Notes: This is my opinion based on the linked materials.
Iโm describing documented behavior, not anyoneโs mental health.
If any fact here is wrong, contact me and Iโll review and correct.
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REDDIT HAS 777,000 PEOPLE FOR SEDUCTION FORUM GROUPS. I SEARCHED, ONLY ONE PERSON GOT LAID FOR DAYGAME IN 2025. ONLY A FEW LAST YEAR IN 2024.
LAST YEAR I GOT 56 LAID AND PULLED TESTIMONIALS. OTHER DAYGAME COACHES CAN’T EVEN GET STUDENTS LAID ANYMORE FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS OF THE INFLATION AND TARIFFS.
This guy is from Redditor too actually. red pill forum
Why get angry at me, do you want more laid testimonials then?
Maybe you should train with me instead of listening to those arm chair experts with opinions as facts.
IF THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT STILL WORKS. AT LEAST 10% OF YOU WILL TRAIN WITH ME AND BE ENLIGHTENED AND NOT TURNED OFF BY A SMEAR CAMPAINGN.
-John Elite (Best Daygame Coach In The World)
P.S If I posted all my reddit students who got laid from here. Maybe I should, you would be suprised. Maybe soon.
I HAVE 666 TIMES MORE THAN REDDIT’S 1 LAID TESTIMONIAL THIS YEAR FOR THEIR SEDUCTION FORUM. NONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY TO GIVE ADVICE. YOUR STUFF ISN’T TRANSFERABLE, IT NO LONGER WORKS IN 2025 AND 2024.
People would try to spin false information about my laid testimonials, but the student results speaks for itself. Go take a look and how many. Any attempt to defame me is just false information strawman arguements adjusted by a hater. Having haters is a good thing. The better you are in your field, the more haters you will have.
MORE PEOPLE WILL FINALLY KNOW ABOUT ME ON REDDIT. THE ENLIGHTENED ONE WILL SEE THE LAID TESTIMONIALS AND NOT GET BRAINWASHED, WILL TRAIN WITH ME.
THE ONES WHO ARE IRRATIONAL, DELUSIONAL, LAZY, WON’T AND DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR OWN MYSTERY METHOD THAT DOESN’T WORK, WITH 1 LAID TESTIMONIAL IN 2025. HAVE A LOOK AT MY TESTIMONIALS
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