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Amazing Ivan (The Magician / “Ivan Michael”) Receipts, not opinions
I’m sharing my side of this because a lot of people are seeing a hit piece from Ivan Stratienco and asking what really happened…
I’m not here to argue in circles about Ivan Stratienco’s claims…
I’m going to show you a simple timeline, a few short quotes, and redacted screenshots involving Amazing Ivan…
You can decide for yourself…
A factual statement about Ivan Stratienco (“Amazing Ivan”), magician. NDA timeline, coaching experience, receipts, and redacted screenshots included.
Ivan Stratienco, a magician also known as “Amazing Ivan” and “Ivan Michael,” said my system can work…

He quit after 14 days…
We signed a written non-disparagement / NDA (non disclosure agreement) and I sent Ivan Stratienco a $400 goodwill payment…
I don’t have a refund policy here.
Then Ivan Stratienco posted claims that don’t match the record…
This page is just the receipts about Ivan Stratienco and the timeline of events…

1) How it started
Ivan Stratienco’s first message told me exactly where he was at…
“I feel like I am a hard case…”
“…and feel depressed about little to no results.”
“Not good at getting dates/new closes… ghosted/ignored.”
“Can you help a hard case?”
Because of that, we did what I always do for daygame when someone’s struggling…
Drills first with Elite Access (about 10 minutes a day)… build tonality, pacing, body language… then move into the course and approaches…
No diagnosis… No labels… Just skill work…
[Exhibit A: First message from Ivan Stratienco, timestamp visible, identifiers blurred]
His first message told me exactly where he was at.
[Exhibit A: First message, timestamp visible, identifiers blurred]
First contact: Ivan Stratienco describes himself as a hard case and says he feels depressed with little to no results…

2) Quick voice check
I flagged his homework was monotone and asked Ivan Stratienco to start basic tonality drills…
His reply was honest:
“I was trying to mimic Joe Rogan… I guess not!”
That’s exactly why drills come first. If you can’t hear your own delivery yet, you train the ear and cadence before you stack tactics.
[Exhibit B: Voice-note exchange with Ivan Stratienco, timestamps visible]
Monotone flagged. Student acknowledges and we move to tonality drills.

Ivan Stratienco also said on his first message he was depressed. But claims he isn’t depressed on the reddit forums.

3) What actually happened in the two weeks
Ivan Stratienco completed 12 drills in 14 days…
I issued a short 3-day accountability pause when the work slipped. Then access restored.
Ivan Stratienco quit right after and wrote that the system “can work well,” but “it’s not for me”…
Quitting that early doesn’t mean the program failed. It means the foundation wasn’t finished.
[Exhibit C: Quit note from Ivan Stratienco with “system can work well,” date visible]
Ivan Stratienco rage quits after 14 days, while saying the system can work… After showing him a Chinese student became a father in this screenshot.

4) We signed an NDA and closed it out
To keep things peaceful and final, we put it in writing.
• Mutual non-disparagement. No public or private mentions going forward.
• Access revoked to my paid course materials after the split with Ivan Stratienco…
• $400 goodwill payment from me. Not a refund. My policy is still no refunds. This was just to end it cleanly.
Ivan still made a hit piece on reddit anyways regardless of the NDA factually speaking. Even recieving a goodwill payment sent. Even with a non refund policy.
[Exhibit D: NDA excerpt showing non-disparagement + payment confirmation to Ivan Stratienco]
Signed non-disparagement. Access revoked. Goodwill payment sent.

5) Supplements… what was said vs what we actually did
Let me be clear about my coaching with Ivan Stratienco (Amazing Ivan)…
I don’t diagnose. I don’t prescribe. Ever.
If supplements come up, it’s optional, doctor-first, and skippable.
He factually skipped it and bought 2 sets of it on Amazon.
This is not a prescription since its something you can buy on Amazon or over the counter for supplements.
Plenty of students choose no supplements and still succeed.
Daygame results mostly come from drills + coaching + approaches.
On our first call, Ivan Stratienco (“Amazing Ivan”) told me he’s vegetarian and prefers to get everything from food… I said “okay” we’ll run drills-only and keep moving… No pressure… No push…
For context, there’s a public credit with Ivan Stratienco’s name on a vegetarian-themed short, “Meatless BBQ” (2018)… I’m showing a tiny redacted screengrab so readers understand his preference is consistent with public info… That’s all…
[Exhibit E: Redacted IMDB screengrab for “Meatless BBQ (2018)”]
Public credit on a vegetarian-themed short for Ivan Stratienco… Matches what he told me on our call…Public credit on a vegetarian-themed short. Matches what he told me on our call.

What we actually did next: tonality and cadence drills first (he’d just said “I was trying to mimic Joe Rogan… I guess not!”), then the usual skill blocks, then approaches.
No supplement plan was required or implemented for Ivan Stratienco…
If a student ever asks about supplements in general, I tell them to speak to their own licensed clinician. Then we get back to skills.
6) Later claims vs the record
After the NDA, posts appeared that don’t match what you just saw above.
Here’s the side-by-side so you can check it quickly.
Claim
“He says you’re depressed when you’re not.”
Record
Ivan Stratienco’s first message literally says “feel depressed” and “hard case”…
That’s why we started with drills… Not labels… Not prescriptions…
He said on the screenshot training with me he was depressed. His voice I played it on Youtube, he sounds very depressed. But he can’t detect it…

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Claim
“He irresponsibly prescribes supplements.”
Record
I don’t prescribe… It’s optional, doctor-first, and skippable…
Ivan Stratienco told me he’s vegetarian and preferred no supplements… I respected that and focused on drills…
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Claim
“He bans students for weeks / for not getting instant results.”
Record
It was a short 3-day accountability pause during a two-week window…
Ivan Stratienco completed 12 drills in 14 days, then quit..
Rather than reposting all the screenshots with drills, I took the liberty of creating a chart of the days he approached women. Vs the times he has done drills. He has quit in 2 weeks. He didn’t do enough drills for a transformation or habits or to break old habits.

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Claim
“It’s all online for free.”
Record
After the NDA, access was revoked. He never completed my paid courses.
The core method is taught behind a paywall with coaching. Public clips are not the system.
In the screenshot he said told not to study the course material and singing and breathing for a week. Shows he only went through my 10 minute consultation whatsapp training and has no idea what is in my digital courses. Yet speculates on it.

Why this page exists
I’m not asking anyone to take my word for it…
Look at the quotes, dates, and documents…
Ivan Stratienco said he felt depressed and was a hard case…
We did drills first…
Ivan Stratienco did 12 drills in 14 days…
Short pause…
Ivan Stratienco quit while saying the system can work…
We signed non-disparagement… access revoked… goodwill payment sent to Ivan Stratienco…
That’s the record…

Quick answers if you’re researching my coaching
Do you force testimonials?
No. Results first. Then it’s optional. No result, no testimonial.
Are supplements required?
No. Optional, doctor-first, skippable. Skills do the heavy lifting. But supplements will speed up focus, reduce mild depression if present in the voice and reduce cortisol.
Do you permanently ban people?
No. Short accountability pauses only when the work stops. Then back to training. Its rare to get fully banned. It only happens once a year.
Why “drills first” in daygame?
Because tonality, body language, and calibration are the base. Without that, nothing sticks. It takes 21 days to rebuild a habit. My programs are often 30 day challenges types, thats why I have 666 laid and pulled testimonials.
Plain-English legal note
This page is my opinion based on the documents and messages shown.
Private details are redacted. Where exhibits speak for themselves, I let them.
If a factual detail is wrong, I’ll correct it.
Please don’t contact or harass anyone named or implied here.
I reserve all rights and remedies related to any breach of non-disparagement.
If you want proof instead of forum drama
There are 666+ daygame laid and pull testimonials with verifiable evidence.
Judge by outcomes.
Ask me questions directly if you want to see how Elite Access (10 min/day) leads into the course and approaches.
Testimonials playlist
I want to end on this note. People should be happy for my student success. Not beat themselves up and get jealous in my opinion.

They followed the protocol and not skip days. Or try to do what you want to do instead and got the results below.
I have an London Indian student this year just like the Chinese student. He wants to propose to his London caucasian girlfriend he got with this training as he got success this year. The same situationIvan Stratienco rage quit over.

Quick case study: Indian student bought Elite Bundle 2 and added Elite Tonality Mastery in 2025.
He stuck to 10–15 min/day drills, sent voice notes for corrections, slowed his speech, cleaned up posture, and followed the pull/objection steps.
Outcome over a few months: dates, relationship, now planning to propose to a caucasian woman in London.
No 1,000 approaches.
Just fundamentals done right.
If you’re curious about the exact drill flow and structure for body language and tonality which was dismissed, I summarized it in a short write-up (sales letter/receipts). Link in my profile.
Results vary: consistency matters.
If he got turned off reading a false reddit thread hit piece with all inaccuracies… he would of been alone and depressed and not have this future.
He would be like Ivan Stratienco.
-John Elite
P.S, rather than getting turned off as he kept saying stay far away. Maybe you should get turned on and realize, for daygame, there is one system that is still working in 2025. The rest has fallen and reddit doens’t have anyone laid for daygame with their bad advice.
I HAVE 666 TIMES MORE THAN REDDIT’S 1 LAID TESTIMONIAL THIS YEAR FOR THEIR SEDUCTION FORUM. NONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY TO GIVE ADVICE. YOUR STUFF ISN’T TRANSFERABLE, IT NO LONGER WORKS IN 2025 AND 2024.
People can try to spin the truth that having laid testimonials is a bad thing. But they speak for themselves. Not a haters false narrative, the amount for so many years speaks louder than any hate.


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