SHOCKING! – Winner vs Loser Effect: The Real Reason Most Guys Fail Daygame in 2025 (Advice Video)

Cortisol has these same patterns. Hair loss, big belly, double chin, forgetfullness and procrasrtination. The loser effect.

Cortisol Has These Same Patterns: Hair Loss, Big Belly, Double Chin, Forgetfulness, and Procrastination. The Loser Effect.

There’s a brutal truth that almost nobody in the daygame world wants to talk about…

but you see it everywhere, every single year, in every city, with every group of guys.

There’s a pattern that repeats itself so consistently, it’s almost a law of nature.

And it’s not about tactics, or some new “opener,” or even the so-called “game” that every self-proclaimed expert is selling you.

It’s about your biology. It’s about cortisol—the stress hormone—and the devastating pattern it creates in your life if you let it run wild.

Look around.

You see the same physical signs over and over:

Guys with receding hairlines, bellies getting bigger every year, double chins starting to creep in, eyes that look tired and defeated, and a brain that seems to forget everything important.

It’s not just genetics. It’s not just “getting older.”

It’s cortisol, plain and simple.

It’s the loser effect in action, and it’s destroying your results—whether you realize it or not.

Cortisol is the silent saboteur.

Every time you procrastinate, every time you skip the hard work, every time you choose comfort over discipline, you’re feeding the loser effect.

You’re training your body and mind to accept less, to expect less, to be less.
And it shows up everywhere:

• You start losing your hair, and you blame your parents, but it’s the constant stress and self-sabotage eating away at your confidence.
• Your belly grows, your face gets softer, your jawline fades, and you tell yourself it’s just “life,” but it’s the hormonal consequence of never pushing through, never building real habits.
• Your memory slips. You can’t remember what you learned last week, let alone last month. You chalk it up to “too much on your mind,” but it’s cortisol burning out your focus, making you forgetful and unreliable.
• And the worst part? You start to procrastinate more.
  You need “just one more day” before you start.
  You never get four days in a row of actual effort.
  You convince yourself you’ll do it “tomorrow,” but tomorrow never comes.

This is the loser effect.

It’s not a mindset issue—at least, not at first.

It’s a physical, measurable reality.

Winners and losers are made in the trenches of daily habits and hormone cycles, not in the fantasy world of “mental hacks” and “positive thinking.”

You can see it in the mirror.

You can feel it in your energy levels.

You can measure it in your failures and your inability to stick with anything for more than a few days.

This is why you see the same patterns in guys who never make it.

They start strong, maybe even get inspired by a new program or a flashy testimonial.
But as soon as the stress hits, as soon as they miss a day or two, the cortisol floods in, and the loser effect takes over.

Hair starts thinning, bellies expand, double chins appear, and memory gets worse.
Excuses multiply.

Results vanish.

And here’s the kicker:

It’s not just about looks.

It’s about your ability to show up, to remember, to do the work, to actually build something real over 21 days.

It’s about breaking the cycle of cortisol-driven self-destruction and finally installing the habits that make you a winner—not just in daygame, but in every area of your life.

If you don’t get this under control, it doesn’t matter how many approaches you do, how many “tactics” you try, or how many YouTube videos you watch.

Cortisol will keep you locked in loser mode, recycling the same failures, and you’ll keep wondering why nothing ever changes.

But if you recognize the pattern—if you see the signs and decide to do something about it—everything can shift.

That’s the difference between the guys who transform and the guys who crash out, year after year.

Case studies of some bad impossible case, unteachable case students and why they are total fucking losers.

Case Studies of Some Bad Impossible Case, Unteachable Case Students and Why They Are Total Fucking Losers

There’s a reason I keep hammering the point home:

Not everyone can be saved.

You see, some guys are just built to lose. They’re impossible cases—unteachable, stubborn, emotionally bankrupt, and allergic to growth.

And the more you coach, the more you realize: you can spot these losers from a mile away.

Let’s break down a few real-life (and all-too-common) case studies, so you can see the patterns for yourself.

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The 55-Year-Old Bald American White Student: The One-Track Mind Loser

This guy is the poster child for the “impossible case.”

He’s 55, bald, and American—already fighting an uphill battle in the dating market.

But his biggest enemy isn’t age or looks. It’s his one-track mind and total resistance to change.

I gave him the blueprint.

I handed him the exact fashion advice that’s turned countless “lost causes” into winners.

Did he listen?

No. He threw a tantrum like a toddler, refusing to adapt, clinging to his outdated style like it was a life raft.

Every time I showed him proof—video testimonials, classmates getting laid, guys younger and older than him crushing it—he’d just double down on his stubbornness.

He didn’t want to see the truth.

He wanted to be right, even if it meant being alone.

He crashed out, had a meltdown, and quit.

He’s not coming back.

He’s a loser, and he’ll stay that way until he admits his mindset is the real problem.

He had a latino fuck behavior, without being a latino

He is upgraded to be an unteachable case and stonewalls like a sociopath now.

The worst student of last year stonewalled too this black student.

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The Latino Student: The Mindset Sloth

Then there’s the Latino student—classic “unteachable” behavior.

He didn’t even sign the contract, which tells you everything you need to know about his commitment.

I gave him the mindset playlist—26 audios designed to reset the brain and break through limiting beliefs. How many did he finish?

2.5.

That’s not a typo. Out of 26, he barely made it through two and a half before losing steam and crashing out.

He’s not slow because of genetics. He’s slow because he’s lazy, stubborn, and refuses to push through discomfort.

Every excuse in the book: “I’ll do it tomorrow,” “I just need a break,” “It’s too much.”

He’s not building habits—he’s building a grave for his potential.

Shocking? Not really. I’ve seen it a hundred times.

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The Indian Student: The Chronic Quitter

Let’s talk about the Indian student who actually got laid last year and the year before.

You’d think he’d have momentum. You’d think he’d want more.

But here’s the reality:

He’s carrying a massive double chin, a physical badge of cortisol and loser habits.

Instead of pushing through Elite Tonality Mastery—the exact system that could change everything—he always takes a break.

Every time the work gets hard, he disappears.

He’s addicted to comfort and allergic to the pain of growth.

He’ll never break the cycle until he faces the truth:

You can’t “take breaks” from transformation.

You can’t coast on last year’s win and expect new results.

He’s stuck, and he’s staying stuck by choice.

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Marco the Latino: The Serial Break-Taker

Marco is another Latino student who bought Elite Tonality Mastery—a program that’s changed the lives of guys who actually follow through.

But what does Marco do?

He takes a break.

Today, tomorrow, next week—always a break, never a breakthrough.

He’s mastered the art of quitting just before things get real.

He’ll never win, because he can’t finish what he starts.

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The Pattern: Why They Can’t Win

Here’s the brutal truth:
-These guys are not unlucky—they’re unteachable.
-They have fixed mindsets, zero resilience, and a deep-seated fear of real change.
-They run from discomfort, avoid accountability, and sabotage themselves at every turn.
-They’re not just procrastinators.
-They’re losers by choice.

Every single one of these cases proves the same thing:

• You can’t “out-strategy” a loser mindset.
• You can’t “take breaks” and expect to win.
• You can’t refuse to adapt and hope for different results.

I can give you the best system, the best drills, the best science-backed transformation plan on the planet.
But if you’re an impossible case—unteachable, stubborn, always making excuses—none of it matters.

You’ll crash out, blame everyone else, and stay exactly where you started:
Alone, frustrated, and wondering why “nothing ever works.”

The Unteachable Asian Student: No Memory, No Supplements, No Progress

Let’s talk about another painfully common case:

The guy who refuses to help himself, even when the solution is right in front of him.

This Asian student was struggling with classic ADHD symptoms—forgetfulness, poor focus, always a step behind.

I got him laid for 2 years in a row too, but 2025 is different…

I gave him the answer on a silver platter: natural supplements.

These aren’t some random pills—they’re proven to help with emotional control, working memory, and overall performance, especially for guys with ADHD-like symptoms.

Did he take them?

No. He just stopped.

No reason, no explanation, just pure laziness and self-sabotage.

He is taking real ADHD drugs, but mixed with these things it got him laid before.

Now with the drug itself, its like a NOS that makes the car go faster

But there is no gas in the tank, which burns it out for his brain and hairline.

Then there’s the half-Latino, half-white student. He dismissed the supplement protocol before he even tried.

“I can just get what I need from food,” he said. But what did he actually do?

Guess what? It didn’t work.

This is what happens when you refuse to follow proven advice.

No working memory, no habits, no results.

It’s not genetics, it’s not “bad luck”—it’s the loser effect, plain and simple.

When you ignore the basics, when you can’t even remember to take a supplement that could change your life, you’re not just sabotaging your daygame—you’re sabotaging your entire future.

I see this pattern over and over.

Guys who want the results, but can’t be bothered to do the work.

Guys who think they’re smarter than the protocol, who try to shortcut the process, who always have an excuse.

They end up with nothing: no memory, no progress, and—eventually—no job, no results, no women.

This is why I say:

You can’t outsmart your bad habits.

You can’t “hack” your way to success if you’re not even willing to remember the basics.

It’s not just about getting laid—it’s about taking responsibility for your life, your results, and your future.

If you can’t even remember to take a pill, how are you going to remember the drills, the feedback, the mindset shifts that actually get you results?
You won’t.

You’ll keep crashing out, blaming everything except the real problem—your refusal to do what works.

10,000 approaches won’t get you laid, but reinfornced habits. But it isn’t even about strategy either, from tall self proclaimed high laycount white coaches, which is fucking stupid.

The flower pot theory of how to get laid in 21 days or less with student laid testimonials

You want to know why 10,000 approaches won’t get you laid?

Because it’s not about volume, and it’s definitely not about some magic “strategy” handed down from a tall, self-proclaimed, high laycount white coach. That’s fucking stupid.

You can run around the city doing direct approaches, parroting Mystery Method lines, and getting drunk for “liquid courage,” but you’ll just end up tired, frustrated, and with nothing to show for it—except maybe a cab ride home and a story you can’t even prove.

Or using alcohol and heavy bedroom escalation with romantic flirts…

You don’t even fit into the boyfriend girlfriend frame

so you have to escalate hard.

Let me break it down for you with something even the biggest hardcase can understand: the flower pot theory.

Imagine your skillset is a seed.

You plant it in a flower pot—your brain, your habits, your nervous system.

But here’s the reality: you don’t just toss a seed in the dirt and expect a flower overnight.

You have to germinate it.

That means 21 days—minimum—of watering, nurturing, and building the right conditions before that seed even thinks about sprouting.

That’s your new habit forming.

That’s your social skills, your tonality, your calibration, all taking root below the surface.

But it doesn’t end there.

Once you see that first sprout, you can’t just leave it inside forever.

You’ve got to move the pot outside—expose yourself to the real world, to actual approaches, to pressure and feedback.

You test if the skill survives out there.

Sometimes it wilts, sometimes it thrives.

So you move it back inside, reinforce the roots, and then try again.

Back and forth, in and out, over and over—until the plant is strong enough to survive anywhere.

That’s how you build real, lasting results.

Procrastination?

That’s not watering your skillset.

That’s letting the soil dry out, letting the roots rot, and then wondering why nothing grows.

Every time you skip a day, every time you “take a break,” you’re killing your own progress.

You’re not reinforcing the neuropathways.

You’re just making excuses.

And let’s talk about this tall, white, so-called “high laycount” coach.

He says it’s all about the right strategy.

Bullshit.

If strategy was enough, he’d have more daygame testimonials than me—but he doesn’t.

I’ve got more students laid for daygame than he ever will.

He even admits that daygame lays are the least of his laycount.

Why? Because ending up in a cab isn’t proof.

That’s not a pull.

That’s a maneuver, a convenient assumption that the sheep in his audience lap up without question—sheep with their heads so far up their own asses they can see their own tonsils.

The flower pot theory blows this nonsense apart.

It’s not about tactics.

It’s about habits, about repetition, about actually doing the drills and reinforcing the skills until they become automatic.

Just look at my 21-year-old Gen Z Latino student.

He got laid not because of some new “strategy,” but because he practiced the secret breathing method I taught him.

He expanded his lung capacity, learned to talk slower, stopped snapping his syllables, and finally sounded congruent.

He followed the protocol—21 days of real work, not just “going out” and hoping for the best.

He repeated what worked, and it paid off.

Same with my Jewish white student.

He didn’t get laid by spamming approaches or using alcohol.

He did it by following the protocol, drilling the habits, and reinforcing the skills until they stuck.

That’s the difference.

Game and bootcamps?

They don’t teach this.

They just throw you into the deep end, tell you to mass approach, use direct lines, escalate in the bedroom, and hope something sticks.

It doesn’t work for most guys—especially not in 2025, with the economy, with women’s shields up, with social skills at an all-time low.

Right now, I’m teaching this flower pot theory to a white student in Vancouver.

He’s doubling down on the drills, and his whitewashed tonality is skyrocketing.

He just pulled off 7 instadates.

I want him to be my next laid testimonial for the second 5-day challenge.

Maybe I’ll add this whole flower pot concept to the next challenge—because it’s the missing piece nobody else is talking about.

You want real results?

Stop chasing tactics.

Start building habits.

Water your skillset every single day, reinforce it, test it, and repeat.

That’s how you grow.

That’s how you win.

He has a working memory. I would milk the recent laid testimonials for all it is worth.

If you’re reading this and you’re still making excuses, still procrastinating, still telling yourself you’ll “start tomorrow,” then you need to hear this:

You’re wasting your life.

You’re not just stuck—you’re choosing to be a loser. You’re choosing to rot in your own comfort zone while everyone else is out there getting results, getting laid, and building a real life.

Look, I specialize in turning losers into winners. That’s my track record.

I’ve taken hard cases, guys everyone else wrote off, and I’ve gotten them laid.

I’ve turned impossible cases into normal cases, and normal cases into easy ones.

With my mindset playlist and my flowerpot concept, I can rewire just about anyone—if they have even a shred of grit left.

But let’s be honest:

I cannot save the total fucking losers.

I can’t help the unteachable zombies—the ones who refuse to change, who cling to their excuses like a security blanket, who act like sociopathic Latinos or cackling Kamalas, blaming everyone but themselves for their failures.

If you’re one of those, don’t even bother.

You’re not ready.

Go back to your Netflix, your video games, your sad little echo chamber of excuses.

But if you’re even remotely capable—if you have at least 50% SMV, if you’re not completely delusional, if you can listen, follow instructions, and show up for yourself—then you have a shot.

I don’t care if you’re Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern, Latino, white, old, young, divorced, or just got cheated on.

I’ve gotten every major ethnicity laid.

I’m about to get this white student in Vancouver laid—just watch.

I’ve got a Middle Eastern guy who’s been through hell and is still fighting.

He was just cheated on by a model and it shattered his belief system into a downward spiral.

He had a model girlfriend before with my training, proof here. It wasn’t her, but a different model. He got 2 before.

I’ve gotten guys off the couch, out of depression, and into the field, even after the worst setbacks.

But you have to meet me halfway.

You have to stop being a Homer Simpson, a sociopath, or a cackling loser making excuses for why your life sucks.

Elite Bundle Resurrections is the only program that actually works.

It’s not theory.

It’s not “strategy.”

It’s proven science.

It’s the flowerpot concept in action—plant the seed, build the habit, reinforce it, and watch yourself transform in 21 days.

If you’re ready to stop being a fucking loser and start living, put down your first one-third deposit right now.

Don’t wait.

Don’t “think about it.”

Winners act.

Losers wait for permission.

I don’t care if you’re a hard case, an impossible case, or just a stubborn bastard—if you’re coachable, I’ll get you results.

But if you’re unteachable, if you’re a zombie, if you’re the type to blame the world and never take action, then keep scrolling.

This isn’t for you.

But if you’re even half a man, if you want to finally get laid, get your life back, and stop being a spectator,

click the link, pay the deposit, and let’s get to fucking work.

Because losers make excuses.

Winners make moves.

Which one are you?

Ready to actually change? Or are you just another excuse-making zombie?

Elite Bundle Resurrections. One-third deposit. Now.

Let’s see what you’re made of.

I would post his video testimonial banging the stripper and moving in with her now for the next 5 day challenge. Don’t wait for a sale, every time it gets less and less of a sale. Time is more important than money.

-John Elite (Best daygame coach in the world)

Remember, I can train losers to get laid. But not total broke cortisol zombie losers to. They would quit early or if they made progress they will be even more impatient. So outcome dependent not the protocol flower pot concept oriented. This is not RSD trust the process. This is John Elite, follow the fucking steps the other students got laid recently, and stop procrastinating, bhenchoding. I have no sympathy for ADHD zombies total losers. I really don’t, I hope the loser effect or total loser effect is totally painful.